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From: Timothy Watson <tmwatson@bagel.rs.itd.umich.edu>
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Subject: Re: Linux needs more work to be done!
Date: 27 Jun 1997 06:27:24 -0400
Organization: What am I doing?
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cjtan@acs.ucalgary.ca writes:

> point, when you can't start any more programs, try to shutdown X.
> It is supposed to shutdown all the programs openned in X and then
> shutdown X, returning to the command line.  But guess what happened:
> the machine freezes up!  My question now is: is this a sign of good
> memory management?  If you say that the processor is the one to be

BTW. There is a lot of fundamental missing information here before any
conclusions can be drawn.

How did you "shut it down?" - did you kill the process that startx
"hangs" on to complete, or did you use <CTRL>-<ALT>-<BACKSPACE>? Did
the applications disappear? The only problem that I have had remotely
similar is when X itself hung, but clients were gone. It could have
possibly been a window manager hang, I've never had one with fvwm on
the Suns, or fvwm-2.0.45, which is actually officially a beta. In this
case, a client like an xterm may still allow data entry. So what
window manager were you running?

Did you look in /var/log/messages to see if any kernel error messages
were being issued (with the logging demons), much error output does
not show up on the screen, as Unix was designed as a multi-user system
and someone may not be sitting in front or the wrong person might get
the messages.

BTW, it MIGHT be <SHIFT>-<ALT>-<F1> etc. to drop you into a virtual
console, I'd have to go home and try. I'll try your "experiment," to
see what I get.

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