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From: tracy@munchkin.cnde.iastate.edu (Tracy J. Di Marco White)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Netbsd in ZIP
Date: 18 May 1997 19:19:44 GMT
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J.C. Archambeau <n-xiv@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
}York Block <yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu> wrote:

}> Hi, I am totally new here......I would like too install netbsd on my Zip
}> disk an use it with my mac LCIII. Can I do that??

}Yes, you could.  But it will be a very tight fit.  A full install of *BSD
}is on the order of over 500 Mb.
}You'd have to cannibalize the installation to the minimal.  Another hard
}disk or a Nomai MCD 540, Iomega Jaz or SyJet would be in order if you need
}to install *BSD on removable media.

Is it really that much larger on a mac than it is on the i386 port?
We obviously have different definitions of a "full" install.

I just finished a complete install of NetBSD/i386 on machine with no
need for source or X.  (This is still what I consider a "full" install.)
I have a /usr of 53MB, and a / of 12MB (with three kernels about 1MB
in size each).  Granted, there isn't a lot of space left with only 96MB
on a zip disk, and needing a swap partition, but it does give a working
system for us in under 100 MB.  The only thing from the standard install
I removed was /usr/games.

Even on the pmax port, it doesn't take that much room.  / is 20MB, and
/usr is 88MB.  As far as I know, pmax is the largest working port (that
could be wrong, of course, I don't have experience with all the ports.)
Getting rid of /usr/games and /usr/share/games would gain me about 8MB...
with sufficient pruning I could fit a pmax system on a zip disk, with
no/little room for swap, however.

Obviously there isn't enough room for a full install of NetBSD/pmax on a 
zip disk, including swap space, but neither pmax or i386 require 500MB.  If
you include source in a full install, of course it won't fit on a zip disk,
I believe source alone is over 130MB, and object files will definitely push
that up.

Installation on a zip disk won't give him much room to play, but I would
be surprised if it isn't possible (I believe a couple of people have
NetBSD installed on a zip disk on Mac, after all).
-- 
Tracy J. Di Marco White                                tracy@iastate.edu
"Actually this is a common misconception...I do *not* in fact have a lot
of time on my hands at all! I just have a very very very very bad sense
  of priorities."       --Dean Engelhardt