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From: wdickson@nwnexus.com (William R. Dickson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: EtherTalk Phase 2 with CAP/Netatalk and NetBSD 1.2?
Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:46:40 -0700
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
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Greetings,

I'm trying to accomplish the following on a NetBSD 1.2 box connected to
the Internet via PPP and to four MacOS boxes via Ethernet:

- Provide Filesharing access to directories on the NetBSD box

- Provide tunnelling of AppleTalk through IP, allowing an external Mac (say,
  mine at work) to access the AppleTalk network services at home.

I currently have the former running well, thanks to Bill S.'s port of
Netatalk.  I have the latter working on a temporary basis by running
MacUAR on one of the MacOS boxes; however, I would prefer to provide that
service on the NetBSD box, as it's up and running more consistently (and
besides, learning to make it work could be beneficial later on when I try
to implement a similar solution at my workplace, where a unix box is
pretty much the only choice for such a host).

I have an Ether*Route at home on the network, which has divided the
network into two zones, so I don't believe CAP or Netatalk will need to do
any seeding, but I will need to make them seed at work.

Now, my confusion arises from various snippets of information scattered
around the U of Melbourne CAP site:

     "Native EtherTalk" using packet filters built on  the  Stan-
     ford  ENET  model.  Currently  available  for NIT or ENET on
     SunOS and the ULTRIX Packet Filter only.   Native  EtherTalk
     is both Phase 1 and Phase 2 compatible.

This one looks like it's out; NetBSD not supported.

     "Kernel AppleTalk" for systems that provide appropriate ker-
     nel  AppleTalk  support  at  the  DDP  level  or  where  the
     'netatalk-1.2' package from the University of  Michingan  is
     installed.  Currently supports Phase 1 only.

This looks like it would work, as I've got the netatalk package installed,
but it supports only phase one, and I believe all the clients on my
network require phase two.

     "UAB" is the Unix Appletalk Bridge.  The main use for UAB is
     as  a  bridge between two or more ethernet interfaces but it
     can also be used to provide access to  CAP  services.   With
     UAB, EtherTalk packets pass through a single gateway process
     which places fewer restrictions on  the  network  interface.
     UAB  currently runs under SunOS, ULTRIX, SGI IRIX, SONY NEWS
     and (soon) HP-UX.  UAB is currently Phase 1 compatible only.

This is supposedly obsolete, replaced by UAR, but there's no mention of
UAR in this man page.

Maybe I don't need the full CAP package; perhaps ARNS is all I need.  I
haven't had much luck making it work, though.

Anybody tried this kind of thing?  Can you give me any hints, or at least
tell me which packages are required to perform this task?  If I only need
ARNS and don't need to much around with the entire CAP package, knowing
that would save me some time...

Thanks,

-Bill

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