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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au!news.apana.org.au!cantor.edge.net.au!news.mira.net.au!inquo!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!xmission!not-for-mail From: klaus@xmission.com@editme.first Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD (or something else?) Followup-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: 4 Apr 1997 21:48:22 -0700 Organization: Spam Abatement Technologies Lines: 74 Sender: klaus@xmission.xmission.com Message-ID: <5i4lim$jo7@xmission.xmission.com> References: <332c9a76.3278270@news.adelaide.on.net> <5i2383$hjv$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5i45ed$i9@flea.best.net> <5i47g8$eat@xmission.xmission.com> <5i4etb$64l@flea.best.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au alt.os.linux:19797 comp.os.linux.misc:168051 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:38472 In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Matt Dillon <dillon@flea.best.net> wrote: > Let me answer simply by pointing to one line in your response: > :>merely limits your ability... and earning potential. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Indeed, and what do you think the effect of 'marketing power and user base' > has? It's how the above sort of statement is born: building a life > based on monetary need rather then on making a better future for one's > children, profession, or humanity in general. Ah yes.. programming for humanity. Microsloth is the antichrist. Your children will have a much better life eating Ramen(tm). <chuckle> My kids will have a pretty damn good life living in a ski town and driving a nice car, going to a good school. Greed.. naw... wealth.. maybe. And.. I'm doing something for all those poor souls misled by the MS juggernaut. I'm doing my part for mankind. ;> So tell me.. what programs do you write that do such good for humanity? > Notice that I did *not* say > greed there. Microsoft is greedy, but most programmers are not. It is > unfortunate that most of the job pool tries so hard to follow the money... > the easy path will never earn a person more money then other, more > difficult paths. You do not have to be an NT or W95 programmer to make > a lot of money. Oh.. I know that. But if your code runs on all of them, you make a lot more and do a lot more good for *all* of humanity. Fact is, MS has the market share, and by ignoring it, you are turning your back on all those misled souls that end up running their OS's. Those poor downtrodden masses. The sheep gone astray. > Also, you seem to be equating me with some poor programming dweeb straight > out of a CS course, then basing your argument on that misconception. > That's pretty funny.... I don't know the last time someone had that > perception of me. Maybe it has something to do with your idealistic attitude, the use of "shit", and no solid facts to back up any of your claims, only emotion. Just like a kid. > Both NT and W95 and (W3.1 before then, and MSDOS before that...) > are junk, plain and simple. 80% garbage and 20% guts, and I > wouldn't choose to program in that medium if I had to begger > myself (which I don't, fortunately!). > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And I will base my argument on that statement of yours. If you haven't done it, how can you claim how awful it is? So tell me.... what makes NT "shit" or "garbage" oh great elder of the software world. Technically. And how does that affect the market it is aimed at? You should have a thousand reasons. I have two boxes on my desk. One Unix, one NT. I know which is easier to use, has compilers which support multithreading and templates efficiently, as well as exceptions, even in multithreaded code.. and I hate to tell you this.. but it ain't any of the Unixes I run on. And I also know which one stays up longer... and which one cost less. Matter of fact.. any time they want.. they can haul that other box away. I rarely use it anymore. Takes too long to get anything done. -klaus -- This .sig is in tribute to post parsing, spam generating, software: postmaster@127.0.0.1 cgn@ix.netcom.com clubmail@freestuff4u.com ballman@ibm.net p.marcus@inetarm.com