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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA5504 ; Fri, 01 Jan 93 01:47:25 EST Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ufo!swat!kaleb From: kaleb@swat (Kaleb Keithley) Subject: Re: [386bsd] need motif Message-ID: <1992Dec18.223849.18131@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> Keywords: motif 386bsd Sender: usenet@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (For NNTP so rrn will be able to post) Nntp-Posting-Host: swat Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA) References: <BzDLnu.Czt@ns1.nodak.edu> <BzDLsK.JLv@ns1.nodak.edu> <1gtgu0INN1gk@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:38:49 GMT Lines: 54 In article mattb@sdd.hp.com (Matt Bonner) writes: >In article tjon@plains.NoDak.edu (Christopher C. Tjon) writes: >|> >|> BTW, If there is enough interest I could begin to maintain an archive here >|> on plains.nodak.edu. I am sure that this package will need some porting >|> to 386bsd. I was planning to do it over the holidays. Feed back is >|> welcome >|> > >Well, I stand corrected, I guess there is a version of Motif available, >although 1.1.2 is fairly old at this point. I think 1.2.1 came out >recently or will be out soon. Unfortunately, the licensing got much >steeper as of 1.2. Which leads to my feedback. > >I would be quite interested in a PD version of Motif, but I'm also >curious what version of Motif they are claiming compliance with. >Both the documentation and the functionality of the code have >changed and continue to change. Not to mention the correctness of >OSF/Motif... Chris, I'm curious to know just what you intend to keep in this archive? Motif is proprietary, and if you talk to the OSF people at the various X get- togethers like Xhibition, X Technical Conference, etc. they'll tell you just how vigorously they go after people who put Motif (libraries, program files, source, etc.) onto anonymous ftp sites. Matt, It's possible to get a "Full Distribution" license for 1.0.x and 1.1.x for $1000. The "Full Distribution" license is the magic key to selling Motif libraries and programs. A "Full Distribution" license for 1.2.x however is $15,000. I'm not sure what you're asking/saying about in terms of "version compliance". Delta bugs, all versions of Motif are compliant with whatever specification exists. But it's in pplications development where compliance, in particular, compliance with the Style Guide becomes an issue. It's possible to write non-compliant applications with any version of Motif. It's also possible to write compliant applications without the Motif Widget Set. If you have more questions about what you can and cannot do with Motif, I suggest that you contact OSF directly. Their address, email and other- wise, are in the comp.windows.x and comp.windows.x.motif FAQs. I also once again humbly submit, that if you want the 3D look and and most of the feel of Motif, without the licensing hassles, try Xaw3d. The current version is 0.5, and it's on export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12) in the file ~/ftp/contrib/Xaw3d/R5/Xaw3d-0.5.tar.Z -- Kaleb Keithley kaleb@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov