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From: David Carmean <dlc@silcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Stronghold and other binaries for OpenBSD 2.0
Date: 27 Mar 1997 00:08:59 GMT
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In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Thor Lancelot Simon <tls@panix.com> wrote:
: In article <5hcngo$oju$1@threadway.teeny.org>,
: Jason Downs <downsj@threadway.teeny.org> wrote:
: >In article <3339D4C9.167EB0E7@FreeBSD.org>,
: >	"Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: >>David Carmean wrote:
: >>> OpenBSD was recommended because of the security stance "out of
: >>> the box".  My question is about binary application (read: commercial)
: >>
: >>Sigh.  That stance is getting a little old.
: >
: >Yes, I can imagine why you'd feel that way.
: >

: I'm sure you can imagine many things, Jason.


OK, well, while you guys continue your flamewar I seem to have stumbled 
into, I'll tell you what *I'm* experiencing.  (Doesn't inspire a lot 
of confidence in ANY of the systems when I saw this kind of stuff -- 
accusations of malicious #ifdefs and such -- flying around.)

I'm trying to bring up a web server for a client on a tight schedule, for 
installation at a co-lo site.  I don't have a lot of time to learn how 
to install/config whichever *BSD version I choose.  Although I run Linux 
on a 486 as my "workstation", I don't like it for servers.  We run 
FreeBSD 2.1.5R for our nameserver at my day job, and it works fine.

I tried OpenBSD.  It's not recognizing the top 64MB of the 128MB.  I'm 
told by a kernel-hacker fond of OpenBSD that this is a known problem, 
and that I can hardcode the size in the kernel config.  Fine.  But so 
far, the only way I've been able to figure out how to configure the 
machine is by reading the rc files.  If there are better docs 
somewhere, please point me to them!  I'm not expecting Plug-n-Play, 
but HOWTOs are nice.

Plus, I haven't had anybody tell me that they've gotten Stronghold to 
run.  This friend has hacked the source and gotten it to run, but 
even he's not confident of the stability, and C2 hasn't called him 
back about cooperating on a port.  This seems to be a package that 
is fine for BSD gurus and kernel hackers, but I am neither at this 
point.

So we decided to switch to FreeBSD, but it seems like all of the 
2.2.1R distributions are in various states of disarray after 
some fits and starts with the release....I've tried three so far 
(install via FTP) and it's either looking for the wrong file 
extensions or the directory contents are missing altogether.

So...after seeing recommendations in the newsgroup to move 
to the 2.2 branch, but not being able to find a working 
distribution, I guess I'm going to try 2.1.7.1 now, and cross 
my fingers.

(Boy, this is the week I thank the employer gods that gave me 
a 384K frame relay line to my house :o)


-- 
David Carmean                                           <dlc@avtel.net>
Avtel Communications, Santa Barbara, CA			+1-805-730-7740
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