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From: mi@rtfm.ziplink.net (Mikhail Teterin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc
Subject: Re: no such thing as a "general user community"
Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:30:01 GMT
Organization: Aldan at Newton Upper Falls
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Honorable Larry McVoy
      wrote on 27 Mar (in article <5hd29s$e7t@fido.asd.sgi.com>):

=File & VM system latencies in microseconds - smaller is better
=--------------------------------------------------------------
=Host                 OS   0K File      10K File      Mmap    Prot    Page
=                        Create Delete Create Delete  Latency Fault   Fault 
=--------- ------------- ------ ------ ------ ------  ------- -----   ----- 
=P5-133    FreeBSD 2.2-C   2857   1123   4000   3225      133    -1    0.0K
=R10K      IRIX64 6.2-no    374    389    353    387       55    -1   21.5K

=About a factor of 10.  The R10K is 2x the perf of the P5 but the FreeBSD
=system is sitting idle waiting for the desk.  An infinitely fast CPU
=wouldn't help.

From what I can see, this demonstrates the superiority of hardware,
rather then OS. We don't even see what kind of disk/adapter was
used on the machines (IDE? :)

FreeBSD's ccd-driver used over same several disks increases the
speed nearly linear...

And look! For MMap it is only 2.+ times worse! Make it a PPro-200
with 512 cache and SGI will loose this...

=Don't get me wrong.  I think free software is great.  I think Matt is
=one smart cookie, I'd love to hire him.  Ditto for the FreeBSD team.
=But make no mistake there is more to an OS than a simple minded file
=system or a context switch.  SGI's OS scales to 100s of CPUs, supports
=more devices, and has more stuff that people with $$$ want.  This is
=serious software with serious people working on it.  Do you want IRIX for
=a desktop to read news?  Hell no, install Linux or FreeBSD or whatever
=on your 386 and you are done.  If you have real work to do you may find
=that you have to pay for your tools.

Not that I disagree competely, but the free Unices are stepping on
Big Vendors...

	-mi
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	"Windows for dummies"