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Subject: Re: Betting on Unix
Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:27:50 GMT
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Roberto Alsina writes:

>>> And yes, the eliza thingie can be used to fool some rather annoying 
>>> people :-)

>> Like you, Roberto.

> An unsubstantiated claim,

I suggest you comprehend the substantiation below.

> and an uncalled for ad hominem attack.

How ironic, coming from the person who has made multiple uncalled for
ad hominem attacks.

> I have never been fooled by your feeble attempts at Elizing me.

Oh really?  Funny that you responded several times without commenting
on them.

> You, on the other hand...

I have already addressed the matter, Roberto.  But let's address yours:



Date: 9 Mar 1997 16:56:36 GMT
Message-ID: <slrn5i5gbr.fk.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar>

Eliza] What makes you believe that?

RA] Easy: as I have told you several times, you can't prove what a person 
RA] thought or intended to do. You just can't prove the existence or 
RA] non-existence of a mental image or abstraction!



Date: 9 Mar 1997 16:52:30 GMT
Message-ID: <slrn5i5g45.fk.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar>

Eliza] What makes you believe that?

RA] That there are two posts where you are replying to what is obviously the
RA] output of an Eliza or Eliza-like program. Want me to post them?



Date: 12 Mar 1997 01:07:21 GMT
Message-ID: <slrn5ib0nr.1uj.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar>

Eliza] Are you sure that those are mine?

RA] The address of the poster is yours. I am as sure as you are sure I posted
RA] that article I can't mention about a certain number and you.

Eliza] What makes you believe that?

RA] Believe what?

Eliza] What makes you believe that?

RA] It is pretty hard to do. At least it would be hard for me. Specially 
RA] knowing *when* to make that mistake.



Date: 9 Mar 1997 17:05:30 GMT
Message-ID: <slrn5i5gsg.fk.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar>

Eliza] What makes you believe that?

RA] You said nothing in your first post that could be taken as indication of 
RA] suspicion.



Date: 15 Mar 1997 06:29:37 GMT
Message-ID: <5gdfkh$rsv@news.Hawaii.Edu>

Eliza] Is it because of your sex life that you are going through all this?

RA] Yes. Too much sex with too beautiful women.

Eliza] What makes you believe that?

RA] The dates in the articles.



If you question the identity of Eliza above, I suggest you take a closer
look at the article that you have pointed to as "evidence" that I
responded to Eliza without realizing it.  Look familiar, Roberto?

Have you enjoyed your chat with Eliza, Roberto?