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Subject: Re: Betting on Unix
Date: 18 Mar 1997 03:24:08 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii
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Terje A. Bergesen writes:

> Wayne Hyde wrote:

>> I wrote:

>>> Wayne Hyde writes:

>>>> Plus, you can use emacs' eliza to
>>>> generate USENET replies with about the same level of quality content
>>>> as a certain fellow in cooa.
 
>>> Obviously a reference to Donal Fellows.

>> Yes, Donal Fellows did use the Eliza function of Emacs to generate
>> messages with about the same level of content as your average post.

> Interesting - I am not sure what is the most stupid part
> in such a discussion, Eliza, or the nitwits who insists
> on arguing with her...

This newsgroup obviously has a lot of people who are rather anxious
to discuss other people, as opposed to the subject of the newsgroup.
They like to engage in such irrelevancy.

>> Do you still think www.dejanews.co.uk is in Europe?

> It's IP address would certainly indicate that it is. Is
> it so stupid to think it is? Isn't it? I haven't checked,
> and who would care?

Wayne obviously cares, but apparently for no other reason than to
further one of his pet theories.  Too bad it does absolutely
nothing for his case.  My point was that DejaNews won't necessarily
count everything that has been posted; as an example, I noted that
some distributions are restricted to areas that don't include the
archiving machine (that is, I've made some postings with
distribution set to "local", and those don't show up at DejaNews),
thus the DejaNews numbers aren't an accurate measure of posting
frequency.

The specific case involved Mike Timbol's claim about the number of
postings from me and Jeff Glatt, and I noted that perhaps DejaNews
hadn't counted all of Jeff's.  Indeed, if you go to DejaNews, set
up a query filter with the newsgroup limited to comp.os.os2.advocacy
and then click on the resulting set of over 200,000 documents, you'll
find a curious lack of Jeff Glatt postings among the most recent
documents, despite the fact that he has obviously been quite active
here.  If you then further restrict the query filter to the author
jglatt@servtech.com, the document list starts with entries from
November 1996 and get progressively earlier!  Adding 1997/01/01 to
the query filter's From date field yields *zero* documents.

So much for the cases people tried to make using DejaNews numbers.