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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!metro!munnari.OZ.AU!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news2.acs.oakland.edu!cwis-20.wayne.edu!usenet From: Michael Edelman <mje@pass.wayne.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 13:48:07 -0500 Organization: Wayne State University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <33245767.5B32@pass.wayne.edu> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5dbapu$t1f$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <x7n2ti4s7i.fsf@dumbcat.codewright.com> <5dc7qq$hed@phoenix.sysbe.sysgo.de> <5ddcvf$4dh@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> <330a1d23.2419719@172.15.0.208> <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> <330B2333.38B6@to.me.?> <857190027.3067.2@msn-4-3.binc.net> <5fsk31$oa7@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5g19sp$26iq$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <nHOWEFApJDJzEAY7@hobsonindustries.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: bob.pass.wayne.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:163823 comp.os.linux.networking:71530 comp.os.linux.setup:101983 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:6287 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2784 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:56572 comp.os.os2.advocacy:273662 > >|: >Mathew E. Kirsch wrote: > >| > >|: >> The people with the attitude that "vi is satan incarnate" will never > >|: >> learn to appreciate its efficiency and power, simply because they refuse > >|: >> to try and learn the syntax. Learning vi is paramount to learning UNIX, > >|: >> as it teaches you to think in a unix mindset. And you use a crank starter on your car, and program only in autocoder and 360 assembler ;-) Yes, vi is quite good when compared to TECO or edlin, and it's probably the editor I used most often. But that's just because I learned it when it was my only option on unix. A good visual editor is much more productive. Granted, point-and-click doesn't have the raw masculinity of editing in vi, but you can always take up rugby ;-) --mike