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Subject: Re: Betting on Unix
Date: 9 Mar 1997 23:49:50 GMT
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In <5fsihd$oa7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, kusogari@shef.ac.uk (Earl H. Kinmonth) writes:
|Robb Shecter (rshecter@faculty.ed.umuc.edu) wrote:
|: In article <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de>,
|: Stephan Pfab <pfab@mathematik.uni-ulm.de> wrote:
|: >edward@islandnet.com wrote:
|
|: There's something being missed here, though:  Ancient programs like vi
|: and emacs that require the user to memorize a million keystrokes are just
|: too hard to use.
|
|Million?
|
|More like a couple of dozen max.  Either that, or your version(s)
|of vi are more capable than mine.  (MKS Toolkit for OS/2, SCO
|UNIX 5.0.2, SunOS, etc.)
|
|: After all, these editors are the means, not the end.  They should be
|: blindingly easy to use, like a Windows program.
|
|Since when are Windows programmes blindingly easy to use?
|
|For me, use vi with [nt]roff and doing something like
|
|..IP tag number
|
|is a hell of a lot easier as a way to get a paragraph with a
|hanging indent than anything I've seen in Windows programmes.
|
|: Emacs, vi & kin are asking us to do the equivalent of memorizing everything
|: we've ever learned, word for word.
|
|Rubbish.
|
|An analogy.
|
|When you are driving and want to make a left turn, do you recall,
|via rote memorization, the instructions from the [state of your
|choice] vehicle code for "when making a left turn against
|opposing traffic"?
|
|Unless you have an IQ at a level that qualifies you for sheltered
|employment, if you've done it more than two or three times, you
|remember it.  It becomes automatic.
|
|Earl H. Kinmonth, Kanji Users Service Operation (KUSO!),
|University of Sheffield, Sheffield, England S10 2UJ

Sheltered Employement? You mean like, User Services for Kanji
users at an English University?

BTW Earl, we're sure that _your_ IQ qualifies you for just such shelter.


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