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From: rodsmith@indiana.edu (Rod Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: ASUS SC200 SCSI controller ?
Date: 7 Mar 1997 23:25:22 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
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In article <5fpiic$hkq@chronicle.concentric.net>,
	dantso@cris.com (Daniel Ts'o) writes:
>	Can someone comment on the ASUS SC200 SCSI controller ?
>
>	How does it compare to other choices: other NCR's like Symbios, and 
>the Adaptec 2940UW ?

The ASUS SC-200 uses the NCR/Symbios 53c810 chip, and so will perform
identically to other 53c810-based products, assuming all products are
actually put together correctly.  There may be product-to-product
differences in component quality and even availability (I've heard of some
generic 53c810-based boards that have terminators SOLDERED in place, for
instance, making use of both internal and external devices impossible
without special cables or a second host adapter).  The ASUS SC200 has a
reputation for being one of the better-manufactured of the 53c810-based
products, so you should have no worries there.

As to the Adaptec, the 2940UW is an UltraWide adapter, if I'm not
mistaken.  The 53c810 is a Fast SCSI-2 part.  This means that the 2940UW
will accept higher-end components (mainly rather pricey hard drives at
the moment), and will take more of them.  When used with the same Fast
SCSI-2 devices, though, the two boards should perform similarly.  If you
need the more expensive and faster high-end components, a more appropriate
choice in the NCR/Symbios line would be the 53c875, which is either Ultra
or UltraWide SCSI, I don't recall which.  I don't know of any specific
product that uses this, but they do exist.

>	Can it be used in any PCI system or only ASUS ? I understand there is 
>a BIOS issue.

There's no motherboard brand-name issue, but the 53c810 does require that
support for the chip be present in the BIOS.  This is usually referred to
as the "NCR SDMS BIOS," and can coexist with most other BIOS brands
(Award, AMI, etc.).  Sometimes you'll get a notice to the effect that it's
present when you boot your system.  Other times you may need to contact
the manufacturer of the motherboard, since they're the ones who license it
from Symbios (or NCR for older boards) and add it in.  I've seen reports
of successfully hacking this support into BIOSes that don't have it, but I
don't recommend this unless you have a spare BIOS chip sitting around,
since it can make your system unusable.  The last I checked, there was
some information on hacking the NCR SDMS support into the MR BIOS on their
web site (http://www.mrbios.com, I believe).  I don't know if Symbios
would condone such activities, but I'm sure they don't encourage it.

>	The OS would be FreeBSD. Is support for the ASUS SC200 in FreeBSD 
>decent, suitable for a robust, good performing system ?

I use the port of these drivers under Linux and can't complain.  I assume
they'd be as good under FreeBSD.

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