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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!tan From: tan@essc.psu.edu (David Tan) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: 23 Feb 1997 03:17:35 GMT Organization: Penn State Earth System Science Center Lines: 24 Message-ID: <5eocsf$nn1$1@laurasia.ems.psu.edu> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <330ea403.78621875@mambo> <5ekqvg$864$1@laurasia.ems.psu.edu> <3314508c.253862546@mambo> NNTP-Posting-Host: hydroxyl.essc.psu.edu Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:160451 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2586 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:54192 comp.os.os2.advocacy:269271 In article <3314508c.253862546@mambo>, Sang K. Choe <sangria@inlink.com> wrote: >[...] >You've obviously haven't spent much time trying to teach a bunch of >new Freshmen CS students on how to get around in vi--that's vi, not >vim, not elvis, not vile, not [fill in the blank]. You are absolutely right! >[...] >In passing, I would point out that I do use vim/lemmy under NT for >most of my text hacks. Ironic no? :-) Not particularly. I think a distinction should be made between "user-friendly" and "beginner-friendly". Ideally, of course, the two are not exclusive; certainly nothing pejorative should be associated with the latter. Yet in the media and in common use, "user-friendly" always means "easy-to-learn" whether or not the product in question is actually easy to use on an extended basis. Vi to me is an example of "easy-to-use/not-easy-to-learn" whereas the pure GUI (e.g.) is to me "easy-to-learn/not-easy-to-use." Dave Tan PS: what's "lemmy"?