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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!news.dra.com!news.starnet.net!news.starnet.net!news.inlink.com!not-for-mail From: sangria@inlink.com (Sang K. Choe) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy Subject: Re: Betting on Unix Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 01:51:19 GMT Organization: InLink Lines: 32 Message-ID: <3314508c.253862546@mambo> References: <5d3sr2$44n@nntp1.best.com> <5ef5c8$rgs@arktur.rz.uni-ulm.de> <330B2333.38B6@to.me.please> <330ea403.78621875@mambo> <5ekqvg$864$1@laurasia.ems.psu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sangria.inlink.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:160214 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2575 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy:54027 comp.os.os2.advocacy:269054 On 21 Feb 1997 18:53:36 GMT, tan@essc.psu.edu (David Tan) wrote: : In article <330ea403.78621875@mambo>, Sang K. Choe <sangria@inlink.com> wrote: : ... : >Sorry, power I can agree with, but usability? That's an utter and : >total crock. Vi is the single most user hostile application I have : >ever had the misfortune of using or trying to teach another to use. : : Whoa, easy there! I'm no vi black-belt, but vi happens to be my editor : of choice. Once you get to know it, it is astonishingly quick and : economical, and gives you access to the shell as well. In that sense, : vi rates high on usability: I can't think of an easier-to-use editor, : in fact. Of course, I can't think of a less intuitive and more peculiar- : to-learn screen editor, either. You've obviously haven't spent much time trying to teach a bunch of new Freshmen CS students on how to get around in vi--that's vi, not vim, not elvis, not vile, not [fill in the blank]. Spend just one semester fielding questions and trying to undo some of the mess they managed to get into, and you'll get a fairly jaded view of vi yourself. In passing, I would point out that I do use vim/lemmy under NT for most of my text hacks. Ironic no? :-) -- Sang. ******************************************************** * Sang K. Choe sangria@inlink.com * * http://sangria.inlink.com/index.html * * finger: sang@sangria.inlink.com * ********************************************************