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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!lucy.swin.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!psgrain!news.rain.net!pacifier!deraadt From: deraadt@theos.com (Theo de Raadt) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc Subject: Re: Why no addusr? Date: 17 Feb 1997 08:38:38 GMT Organization: Theo Ports Kernels For Fun And Profit Lines: 33 Message-ID: <DERAADT.97Feb17013838@zeus.pacifier.com> References: <none-ya023480001912962244220001@news.infi.net> <1997Feb14.090136@screwem.citi.umich.edu> <5e312c$fc8@news.bayarea.net> <1997Feb15.102158@screwem.citi.umich.edu> <5e5q1a$npi@news.bayarea.net> <1997Feb16.104106@screwem.citi.umich.edu> <5e8v8r$ca2@camel5.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.theos.com In-reply-to: kpneal@pobox.com's message of Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:53:12 GMT Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:5456 In article <5e8v8r$ca2@camel5.mindspring.com> kpneal@pobox.com (Kevin P. Neal) writes: Nobody is getting paid to fix PRs in NetBSD (well, for the most part I'm sure). You fill out a form, they fix the problem. Is filling out a form too much trouble, when you get so much in return? I am not getting paid to fix NetBSD PR's either. But I enjoy fixing these problems (in OpenBSD). And when I cannot fix them, I am using mh-e to it's full potential and filing concise problem reports for myself and anyone I know who might cross that area at a later time. I certainly hope noone from the NetBSD group is saying they're ignoring problems reported via other channels. But the fervor with which they attacking the Peter and the CITI people makes one wonder. I don't see why people are blaming Jim Rees for reporting problems in the wrong places. Strikes me as a very small issue. By the way, Jim is doing really cool stuff. Did anyone see Jim's laptop at Usenix? It was pretty darn wicked -- he was running disconnected AFS on it. He had most of the disk on the machine running as an AFS cache and the files he commonly accesses at umich.edu were in the cache. He claims that as soon as you plug it into the network and kerberos authenticate it it correctly sync's up the server with any local changes he's made. That's nifty stuff. (By the way, KerberosIV is a fully intergrated component of OpenBSD, ships in all our distributions, enabled) -- This space not left unintentionally unblank. deraadt@theos.com www.OpenBSD.org -- We're fixing security problems so you can sleep at night.