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From: ripley@nostromo.in-berlin.de (H. Eckert)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: perl (was: Re: shells)
Date: 15 Feb 1997 22:08:06 GMT
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espel@llaic.univ-bpclermont.fr (Roger Espel Llima):
> In article <5e0cup$q8f@nntp1.u.washington.edu>,
> William R. Somsky <somsky@dirac.phys.washington.edu> wrote:
> >_AND_ ... _*AND*_ ...  You start down that slippery slope where
> >the default distribution installs every possible package by
> >default and you need a 9 GB disk to install it in.

It's not simply a matter of consumed disk space (although this would
start becoming an issue were you to install everything by default)
but some packages have the nasty property of stepping on each others'
toes if you're not careful.  Some even have a little highlander-ish
attitude and it even makes sense, too.  You don't really want to have
two complete news systems, mail transfer agents and what not running at
the same time.

At first I tried to use C-News due to lazyness (it came as a package in
2.1-R (don't know whether that changed)) and some things in it didn't
work the way I wanted them to, so I removed the package and installed
the INN port instead.  I still have some bits of C-News around somewhere
(for example some manpages seem to be from there).

> How about perl though?  You have perl 4 in the base distribution,
> and perl 5 as a package.  perl 5 has been out for years, and is,
> at this point, more stable than perl 4.  Why not ditch perl 4 altogether
> (or make it a package and install it as /usr/local/bin/perl4), and have
> perl 5 in the base distribution?

There had been some argument about perl5 being substantially bigger than
perl4.  Apparently perl has become important enough that it became part
of the basic set.
This seems to be an advantage of FreeBSD/Linux vs. commercial systems
to me.  As of Version 2.3 Solaris didn't come with perl or tcl or
tcsh etc. etc. and I doubt this has changed much...

Greetings,
				Ripley
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