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From: honey@citi.umich.edu (peter honeyman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Why no addusr?
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:21:58 EST
Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan
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Jason R. Thorpe writes:
  peter honeyman <honey@citi.umich.edu> wrote:
  
  >so where does that leave you?  at citi, we used netbsd for quite some
  >time, but got sick and tired of patching the bug fixes we submitted to
  >the netbsd core into release after release.  that sucks.
  
  I have to take issue with this...
  
  I was aware that Jim Rees sent mail about bugs from time to time.  However,
  I just checked the bugs database... not a _single_ bug report was ever filed
  by _anyone_ from CITI.

jason, jim rees works at citi.
  
  How can you attack NetBSD for not fixing your bugs when you never
  submitted bug reports?

jason, jim rees, who works at citi, submitted bug reports.
  
  Also, I just checked the core archives (being a member of core, I can do
  that...)... No reports of bugs were ever sent to "core@netbsd.org"
  by CITI folks, either.

jason, check for reports of bugs sent by jim rees, who works at citi.
  
  What likely happened, is that a message was posted to port-i386 about
  a bug in some non-i386-specific part of the system, and it fell through
  the cracks.  That's not our fault.  That would be analagous to posting
  about a linker bug to some linux network driver mailing list.

no, jason, these were bug reports filed by jim rees, who works at
citi.
  
  Given that we have a bug-tracking system in place, it's totally unreasonable
  to expect developers to scour mailing list archives looking for possible
  bug reports.

fine.  but what about the bug reports (and fixes) filed by jim rees,
who works at citi?
  
  I suggest that if you're going to complain about The Man's System,
  you ought to try actually using it first.

jason, get a clue.  you think i'm making this up?  look for bug
reports filed by jim rees, who works at citi.

	peter