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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!metro!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.inetnebr.com!news.enteract.com!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news.pacificrim.net!news From: Khan Klatt <khan@pacificrim.net> Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Linux vs BSD Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:46:31 -0800 Organization: Pacific Rim Network, Inc. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <32FFC167.1749@pacificrim.net> References: <32DFFEAB.7704@usa.net> <5d299q$i6r@josie.abo.fi> <5d80q2$8cn@cynic.portal.ca> <0myX9U200YUf09B6Y0@andrew.cmu.edu> <5dg79o$fsi@cynic.portal.ca> Reply-To: khan@pacificrim.net NNTP-Posting-Host: wrath-of.pacificrim.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:5996 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2494 comp.os.linux.misc:158368 Curt Sampson wrote: > > In article <0myX9U200YUf09B6Y0@andrew.cmu.edu>, > Gerry S Hayes <sumner@CMU.EDU> wrote: > > >> So how many people do you know running just the Linux kernel, > >> without any of those GNU utilities or shells? > > > >The same number as those I know who run Win95 without Microsoft Word > >(Or Minesweeper, for that matter). None. So what? ... The GNU utilities > >are some of the most useful applications for Linux.... > > Windows runs quite nicely without minesweeper. I'd like you to show > me just what you do with a GNU/Linux system that doesn't have init, > sh, ls, or any of those other `useful applications.' I'd rather point out that Windows(95/NT) without "EXPLORER.EXE" or Windows 3.1 without "PROGMAN.EXE" is as functional as Linux without (as you say) "init, sh, ls..." The distinction is completely innane. Linux as an OS is a good OS. Linux/GNU as system is a good system. BSD as an OS is a good OS. BSD/(BSD/GNU) as a system is a good system. Pick a better argument, like say "NT as an OS is a good OS. NT as a system is a good system", and then we'll have a fight on our hands. Until then, find a better way to pick a fight. -Khan