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From: deraadt@theos.com (Theo de Raadt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: Why no addusr?
Date: 09 Feb 1997 01:39:29 GMT
Organization: Theo Ports Kernels For Fun And Profit
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In-reply-to: Markus Baeurle's message of Sun, 09 Feb 1997 01:49:57 +0100
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In article <1f9b795947@emw4maba.slip.gp.fht-esslingen.de> Markus Baeurle <emw4maba@gp.fht-esslingen.de> writes:
   Hello Theo,

greets.

   > OpenBSD has the FreeBSD adduser command.  And it runs on many of those
   > platforms you list.

   This has been said before.

Oh, I didn't realize that.  I tend to take these month long vacations
and miss news articles...

   Well RiscBSD aka NetBSD/arm32 has an adduser command too, so this is not a
   reason for me to switch. ;-) I hope the installation and configuration stuff
   made for the arm32 port will be used by all ports in the future because it
   really makes life easier.

Heh. I don't use adduser myself.  But the never-ending whining about
an adduser commmand has to stop somewhere! ;-)  So we imported the
FreeBSD version and our mailing list has been rather quiet since.

<smirk>

   As OpenBSD wants to be "NetBSD plus more" OpenBSD is IMHO included implicitly
   if somebody mentions something NetBSD can do or runs on which applies to my
   statement too.

OpenBSD doesn't `want' to be "NetBSD plus more".  Historically, that
was just how it was started... remember I was a NetBSD core developer
and hence this spin-off was a natural.  But that statement isn't
intended to indicate this situation came out of a _desire_ to be
"NetBSD plus more".

By now OpenBSD has evolved into something very different; it seems
that evolution is as natural in operating systems as it is anywhere
else (like cars!).

Of course, don't trust me making that statement, go hold a friendly
discussion with an OpenBSD user or download it and decide for
yourself.. ;-)

   Btw, don't you want to update the WWW page which lists what OpenBSD has more
   than NetBSD? It lists a lot of things which NetBSD also has now.

The first few paragraphs on the page you are referring to
(http://www.openbsd.org/plus.html) was updated a few weeks back to be
more explicit about this relationship.  In our early days the page was
describing a meager set of evolutionary changes.  Noadays you should
probably be reading the page as "What we have done since we split from
NetBSD".

Answer: lots.

Like, lots more than just adduser... ;-)

ps. I wish we had an arm32 port.  But, no maintainer. Bummer.

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