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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!lucy.swin.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!cs.mu.OZ.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!super.zippo.com!zdc!szdc!szdc-e!news From: "John S. Dyson" <dyson@indy.celebration.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.misc Subject: Re: Linux vs BSD Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 11:06:54 -0800 Organization: AT&T Lines: 48 Message-ID: <32F788CE.7DA1@indy.celebration.net> References: <32DFFEAB.7704@usa.net> <5c155c$p6u@raven.eva.net> <5c19pg$rf6@lynx.dac.neu.edu> <5c39sk$ddl@troma.rv.tis.com> <5c8jlm$50u@cynic.portal.ca> <m23evrulla.fsf@desk.crynwr.com> <5cdqos$e6k@camel1.mindspring.com> <Pine.SOL.3.91.970201040446.16129A-100000@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu> <32F378FC.41C67EA6@freebsd.org> <slrn5ekm26.5ml.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar> <32F68743.2781E494@freebsd.org> <slrn5feb63.93l.ralsina@ultra7.unl.edu.ar> <32F73973.167EB0E7@freebsd.org> <slrn5fejrn.353.bet@onyx.interactive.net> Reply-To: dyson@indy.celebration.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.misc:156409 comp.os.linux.advocacy:82575 comp.os.linux.setup:95695 comp.unix.bsd.misc:2286 Bennett Todd wrote: > >The only reason for a FreeBSD emulator that I know of is if someone would > >*for some reason* downgrade to Linux. > > I ``downgraded'' to Linux; I switched, a bit over a year ago, from FreeBSD > 2.1.0-RELEASE to Red Hat Linux 3.0.3, because it ran a lot faster. I liked the > easier installation, easy upgrading (I'm now at 4.0, and expect to upgrade all > my boxes, including my alpha, to 4.1 soon), and speed. I haven't tried FreeBSD > since then; it may have caught up to Linux. I seriously doubt it has passed > it. > If you are comparing a FreeBSD V2.1 kernel with Linux 2.X, you'll find that Linux is faster in many ways. FreeBSD V2.1 is of the Linux 1.2.X vintage, and we sorely need to release a 2.2 kernel (which outperforms Linux in some important and not so important ways.) Run benchmarks of your choice and you'll see. > > >One reason that we have the Linux emulator (and EXT2FS) is to ease the > >upgrade to FreeBSD from Linux. > > I've never heard of anybody going that way. Why would they want to? Have you > improved FreeBSD to the point where it's now as fast as Linux, or runs as > stably? > We even got upgrades in the timeframe that you had problems. I am sorry that you had problems with FreeBSD, but facts is facts, we hear about people moving to FreeBSD from Linux all of the time. (Even GPL people who say things like "I had to hold my nose" :-)). > > I'd guess it's because there isn't any application that's available for > FreeBSD, that's not available directly for Linux. Just a guess mind you, but > that would explain the lack. > Of course, the main reason for upgrading is for performance and stability, it appears that there are a few people who have had problems, but they usually are resolved. Our Linux and EXT2FS emulation ease the transition, and have helped users on occasion. Of course, if there were so many "upgrades" of FreeBSD to Linux, such emulation support would help. Such upgrades don't happen often enough to make it worthwhile, I guess. John