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Subject: Re: Sparc vs. x86 speed (was Re: Linux vs BSD)
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:06:54 GMT
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In article <5c8b0o$313$1@capsicum.wsrcc.com>,
Wolfgang Rupprecht <wolfgang@dailyplanet.wsrcc.com> wrote:
>Ruediger Koch <rkoch@samart.co.th> writes:
>>regularly. For the mailserver, we replaced a Sparcstation 20 with 64MB
>>by a P133 with 32MB. The load went down from 1-2 to 0.05-0.3! Two of the
>>fucking expensive Suns are catching dust now.
>
>I'd like to echo those sentiments. For over 10 years I've been
>running nothing but BSD machines. For the longest of times the only
>serious choice was Sun/SunOS (Vax/BSD always tied you to their vastly
>overpriced peripherals).
>
>I was quite suprised to hear a coworker someone claim that a
>multi-hour compile of a large source tree (on an ss5) could be done in
>1/4th the time on a PentiumPro under NetBSD. (Yea right!) Well it
>was true. As a matter of fact a PPro-150 could do the compile in
>approx 3/4 the user time that an SS20 could do it in. That was quite
>a shocker. Checking the benchmarks of the two machines
>(eg. SpecFoo's) showed a roughly similar speed ratio.
>
>I sure hope that the Sun sales/markening droids have some spin they
>can put on these facts. They'll need it as more and more folks
>realise how far Sun has slipped behind commodity hardware.
*sounds of snickering coming from Sun*
All of this is quite true... it is still very impressive that an architecure
that is 5+ years old from Sun can match up with the current stuff coming from
intel. Anyway, I believe I read somewhere that the last of the SS20's were
being shipped form Sun... they're really pushing the ultra line now. A more
fair comparison would be to compare modern CPU's from both companies.. compare
the Ultra Sparc against the PPro.
>
> specint-95:
> SS5: 85Mhz 1.37
> SS20: 150Mhz 3.77
They have 4.02 listed at http://www.specbench.org for the SS20 150Mhz
> PPRO: 150Mhz 4.27
Ultra: 140Mhz 4.66,5.41 (two numbers are listed)
Ultra: 170Mhz 5.56,6.26
>
> specmarks speed ratio:
> ss5-85/ppro-150: 1:4
> ss20-150/ppro-150: 1:1.13
>
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