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From: crs@lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: X-windows quality
Date: 22 Jan 1997 20:57:12 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
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In article <5c597j$kca@mozart.jlc.net>, Jason T. Nelson <jtn@mc.com> wrote:
= On 21 Jan 1997 23:07:12 GMT, J Wunsch <j@uriah.heep.sax.de> scribbled:
= >As much as i agree on the Xaw appearance (though this has never
= >intended to be an X11 toolkit, but only proof of concept), i dare to
= >disagree regarding the pleasentness of CDE. I simply find its look
= >very, very ugly. :-)
=
= It may be ugly, but it's a good starting point (at the very least) for
= desktop standardization..
I understand the notion that one should be able to go to any
machine and feel right at home--desktop standardization.
On the other hand, why should I have to use a particular desktop
(or window manager or text editor or ... or *operating system*)
just because millions of other people like it? If I thought that
was a valid concept, I'd be running one of the M$ OSs on my PC
instead of FreeBSD. I think it was Ben Franklin who said something
like "By whose foot shall the boot be fit?"
And I agree with the comments about the ugliness of Motif. One of
the biggest warts is the refusal of some Motif applications to let
me use ^H (CTL-H) as the character kill character. I hate having
to reach for special buttons along the edge of the keyboard when I
can type ^H without leaving the home keys. There may be a way to
make it behave but, for some applications, I haven'g figured out
how. Seems to me that I shouldn't have to--that it should be able
to check my stty settings and do what I've already told the OS.
= >But all of this is a matter of taste. The good thing with X11 is that
= >there's much room for personalization. I have yet to see two desktops
= >of daily X11 users that look similar.
=
= Really? I find a lot of relative "newbies" copy my desktop settings for
= fvwm2, though they eventually change things around after they gain more
= information about the rc file :)
But I think the point was that they are *able* to change things
around once they know enough to do so. Note the second sentence in
the paragraph that you quoted.
--
Best,
Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby "I'm the NRA!"
crs@swcp.com crs@hamlet.lanl.gov Life Member since 1965