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From: deraadt@theos.com (Theo de Raadt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc
Subject: Re: Security hole
Date: 21 Jan 1997 01:43:15 GMT
Organization: Theo Ports Kernels For Fun And Profit
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In article <E4Boww.69M@news.interactive.net> ritz@onyx.interactive.net (Chris Mauritz) writes:
   In which case you get what's coming to you.  Running a secure system
   is an ongoing process.  You really DO need to waddle by ftp.bsdi.com
   once in a while and keep up with the patches.

Well, It's well known that I don't think this to be enough.  BSD is
being reactive to the bugs, just like all the other commercial
vendors.  They are not fixing a problem until the exploit becomes
well-known.

Even if you do this, I'd say the window is 3 weeks or so; from when
the bug becomes well known till when a fix is available.  But during
the period of not-well-known you are vulnerable as well.  Just to pick
an example, with the recent talkd exploit oh, the problem was known
about about 6 months.  Four weeks ago you couldn't just see a news
posting containing the exploit code, you had to actually go onto irc
and ask around...
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