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From: jca@bighorn.accessnv.com (J.C. Archambeau)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux UFS support and FreeBSD
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Date: 26 Dec 1996 22:37:24 GMT
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AJ Musgrove (musgrove@xavier.varmm.com) wrote:

: Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@nmsu.edu> wrote:
:: In article <59f7q6$f7a@nesti.newengland.net>,
::  pgf@american.com (Paul Fox) writes:

::    i have _no_ clue about the poster's problem, but i will
::    say that there is _no_ place for obscenity in production

You mean to say that there is no place in a OS that is filled with
obscenity and Freudian commands?  Tell me that mounting a disk isn't
obscene.  What about fingering someone?  You can't tell me you haven't
given anyone the finger, now, have you?  How about uptime?

I personally find this to be one of the most hiliarious threads I've
ever read on Usenet.  A good candidate for alt.best.of.internet.  I can
just picture it now.  The censor police from the christnet heirarchy
now over obscene error messages, OS commands and system calls.
THERE'S A NAUGHTY WORD IN NFS.C!  OH NO!  HE'S MOUNTING A DISK!
It would make Ed Meese and Jessie Helms proud.

::    quality software, whether in comments or in user visible output.  it
::    certainly doesn't reflect well on the programmer, nor on the linux
::    community as a whole.

Apparently you haven't been behind a closed door meeting with engineers
and tech support people.  Best way to describe some of the language
would be comparable to a Stand Up Act by the late Sam Kinison.  :D

:: This appears to be a lonely limb to climb out on, but I agree with
:: you.  Where there's no need for obscenity there's no reason for it,
:: and there's never a need for it in error messages.  I think even the
:: people defending the language will agree that ``fucking Sun blows me''
:: is a completely useless message?

I think it more or less describes the programmer's attitude about Sun
code.  Keep in mind that the source code to FreeBSD and Linux is readily
available, you could always change it.  Perhap we need a new language
rating system for the OSes.

: That language, while I don't personally agree with it, does show the
: programmers have a personality and are real people.

I agree.
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