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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!portc01.blue.aol.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.pitt.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!das-news2.harvard.edu!oitnews.harvard.edu!russ!oly From: oly@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Oliver Oberdorf) Newsgroups: news.groups,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.advocacy Subject: Re: RFD: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce and comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc Date: 23 Dec 96 15:22:11 GMT Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory Lines: 44 Sender: oly@russ (Oliver Oberdorf) Message-ID: <32bea3a3.0@cfanews.harvard.edu> References: <851124523.3348@uunet.uu.net> <slrn5bml5e.hjr.jgoerzen@complete.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: cfanews.harvard.edu Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au news.groups:3981 comp.unix.bsd.misc:1861 comp.unix.advocacy:31856 In article <slrn5bml5e.hjr.jgoerzen@complete.org>, jgoerzen@complete.org (John Goerzen) writes: [...] |> Well, all I can say on this is that awhile back, when I posted to one of the |> OpenBSD mailing lists (as I was in the process of choosing a Unix OS to |> install on a computer), I received nothing but insults from Deraadt. Theo |> also couldn't seem to keep from bashing NetBSD and FreeBSD at every |> opportunity, and later spammed me in e-mail. I am all for spreading the |> word about open Unices such as FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and Linux, and |> think that this would be a good way to do it. But I think that you have the |> wrong person listed as moderator. [...] I've been following the OpenBSD newsgroups since not too long after their creation. The lists I follow have been very polite and appropriate - far better than one might expect. There was a brief flame war resulting from a Free/Open cross-post. In this case, both Open and Free contrtibutors behaved less than perfect. In fact, the worst offenders (IMHO) were a FreeBSD core member and a FreeBSD developer. My point is we're all jerks sometimes. I didn't stop using FreeBSD and I didn't stop looking at OpenBSD. The content of the OpenBSD mailing lists has generally been better than the norm for USENET and I don't see it as evidence that the newsgroup would have problems. |> I think that the creation of an OpenBSD group with him as moderator would |> harm OpenBSD and the image of free Unices in general, rather than help it. I get the impression he (Theo) is only co-moderator. |> (please CC a copy of your message to me via e-mail as I do not read |> news.groups) Which leads to the obvious question: why do you have an opinion? If you don't read newsgroups, why do you care about the existance of an OpenBSD specific group? (this message not CC:'d) -Oly