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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.idt.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!webspan.com!news From: jjt@ndhome.webspan.com (Jamie Thingelstad) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Apache much slower than Netscape ! ? Date: 8 Dec 1996 23:26:11 -0600 Organization: Concerto, Inc. http://www.HHConductor.com/ Lines: 63 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <58g7tj$joc@ndhome.webspan.com> References: <aak2.848946036@Isis.MsState.Edu> <32A71A98.7342@amersham.co.uk> <58fk4m$hi2@node5.frontiernet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: home.hhconductor.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix:22942 comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc:6285 comp.unix.solaris:91825 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:32254 In article <58fk4m$hi2@node5.frontiernet.net>, Dan Foster <dsf@node5.frontiernet.net> wrote: >In article <32A71A98.7342@amersham.co.uk>, >Michael Cole <mjc@amersham.co.uk> wrote: >>Atif Ahmad Khan wrote: >>> >>> We have just setup a test Pentium PRO 200 server running Solaris X86 2.5.1 >>> (all latest patches applied) and got Stronghold secure server (Apache >>> with SSL patches) and tried to run some benchmarks. >>> >>> We were very excited about the new server and were thinking that it was >>> going to beat the pants off of our Netscape 1.2 on FreeBSD 2.1 Pent 90 com >>> Imagine our surprise when we found out that Netscape is roughly 6 times >>> faster. I am not sure what to blame, the Solaris OS or Apache or Strongh > >>> Something is not right somewhere and I am not sure how to pin it down. >>> Any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated. > >If you *really* want to boost performance of Apache/Apache SSL to at least >match (roughly) performance of Netscape Commerce server (I haven't even >benchmarked it vs a Netscape Enterprise server yet), you oughta install >Harvest which is a *really* kick-ass caching tool. > >FYI: Apache 2.1b1 (I think I got that right) is out - officially beta, >but has numerous code improvements, and has been under internal testing >by the Apache team for at least 8 months, I believe... > I'm not sure what the above is referring to since Harvest isn't applicable to the above discussion, and the Apache beta is 1.2b1, not 2.1b1 I have been using Netsite Commerce Server 1.12 for a long time on Solaris 2.4 and 2.5.1 (both fully patched). I have been *very* displeased with the direction and future stability of the SuiteSpot products (Hey, I don't want a News server, mail server, proxy from Netscape, I want a kick ass httpd)... I've since migrated our staging server to Apache 1.1.1 and am now running 1.2b1. I am looking into Stronghold, but haven't actually set it up yet, just downloaded the trial. (As an aside, Stronghold, you really should follow the /opt conventions when on Solaris, when in Rome... ) I have found Apache 1.1.1 and 1.2b1 to be significantly *faster* that Commerce Server 1.12 and also much more efficient on the machine, as well as perceived speed... * Apaches httpd takes 60% the memory that Netsite's httpd does * Apache supports Keep Alive connections which adds dramatically to perceived speed, I've heard that SuiteSpot 3.0 *still* doesn't work 100% with Keep Alive * Apache allows a more dynamic adjustment for number of httpd processes so the machine doesn't *always* have to be running 128 httpd's * Apache's support for Virtual Hosts allows me to more effectively utilize each machine. I've been nothing but happy. As well, the status module for Apache is a God send (be on the lookout for my Apache xload ripoff for monitoring a web servers acitivity... :P ). -- = http://www.TheConductor.com/ ========================= Jamie Thingelstad 612.832.9445 Ext 24 Fax 612.832.5926 Vice President 7600 France Ave South, St. 106, Edina, MN 55435 Chief Technology Officer = jjt@HHConductor.com ====================================== Concerto, Inc