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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!metro!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs.uc.edu!news.kei.com!news.texas.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!helena.MT.net!nate From: nate@see.my.signature (Nate Williams) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.internals Subject: Re: Solaris 2.6 Date: 2 Dec 1996 18:16:54 GMT Organization: SRI Intl. - Montana Operations Lines: 43 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <57v6em$p73@helena.MT.net> References: <32986299.AC7@mail.esrin.esa.it> <casper.329c06bc@mail.fwi.uva.nl> <57res5$j7k@panix2.panix.com> <casper.32a1813c@mail.fwi.uva.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: trout.mt.sri.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.solaris:91149 comp.unix.bsd.misc:1653 comp.unix.internals:11412 In article <casper.32a1813c@mail.fwi.uva.nl>, Casper H.S. Dik <casper@fwi.uva.nl> wrote: >Are you saying that *BSD will be able to move to a 64 bit OS without >any changes in ABIs? Neat trick. Yep. >>So you're then admitting that if I do it your way I can *still* experience >>file corruption because of programs compiled for 32-bit off_t, aren't you? > >Only if: > a 32bit aware program opens a large file and hands it off > to a non-32 bit aware program > > >Fds are inherited frequently, of course, but I've never seen a DB program >having a separately compiled frontend or shell open its database files. You've never used Informix then, one of the big three. I re-compile my application all the time, but my Informix db software still uses the same front-end it always used. In any case, rather than listening to the arguement whey 4.4Lites implementation is better than the one Sun is using, you are ignoring it and instead taking cheap shots at things like 'understanding installed software', etc.. Heck, in your above statement you've shown that you don't understand 'installed software base' since a *huge* DB vendor does something you claim nobody does. You've consistantly failed to show that Suns approach is better, and many people have shown why the 4.4BSD approach *IS*. Either keep your arguements purely technical or purely political, but don't apply different rules to Sun than you do to CSRG. Nate -- nate@sri.com | Research Engineer, SRI Intl. - Montana Operations nate@trout.mt.sri.com | Loving life in God's country, the great state of work #: (406) 449-7662 | Montana (all the crazies are now in jail 'cept us home #: (406) 443-7063 | natives). - Fly fishing fanatic!