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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais.net!in1.nntp.cais.net!gabby.ShireNet.com!bilbo.ShireNet.com!larry From: larry@bilbo.ShireNet.com (Larry Himes) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Subject: Re: Tuning BSD as Web Server (was Re: Unix too slow for a Web server?) Followup-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Date: 18 Nov 1996 12:06:40 GMT Organization: ShireNet Communications Systems, Inc. Lines: 43 Message-ID: <56pjgh$g1j@frodo.ShireNet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bilbo.shirenet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:31204 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:5296 Giao Nguyen (grail@cray-ymp.acm.stuorg.vt.edu) wrote: : In comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc J Wunsch <j@uriah.heep.sax.de> wrote: : : Ken Bigelow <kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com> wrote: : : > > Funny that people believe this apache-PR. Most servers run in "forking : : > > mode" to hide bugs. On large sites the "idle httpd servers" cost you : : > > additional 32MB of memory without any advantage. : : > Hmmm. Since Apache is reliable (and it has been very much so, for me), : : > that would seem to imply no need to hide bunches of bugs. I also : : > seriously wonder about your '32 MB' figure -- by default, [...] : : > Since my server only *has* 32 MB of RAM (and isn't all that : : > busy, yet), and top still reports plenty of unused memory available even : : > while hits are taking place, that figure cannot be a fixed number. : : Well, to second this, my machine at work is also running Apache with : Well, the 32MB figure is *very* interesting. I'm running apache, along : with a primary nameserver, ftp server, and use it as my own personal machine : and I've never had this memory problem. About a weekend or two ago, : I was working on a project with a closing due date. Just out of curiousity : I checked up on the apache access logs. It was showing close to 2000+ hits : in that one day alone. Apparently everyone in my class was checking out : the wxWindows materials at my site. : In any case, I couldn't tell any performance problems with 12-16 preforked : apache servers and my debug/development work. Here's an excerpt from 'top' from one of our servers just now: 21531 nobody 2 0 500K 384K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd 21560 nobody 2 0 500K 376K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd 21561 nobody 2 0 496K 376K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd 21563 nobody 2 0 496K 376K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd 21487 nobody 2 0 496K 372K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd 21578 nobody 2 0 484K 372K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd 21592 nobody 2 0 484K 364K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% httpd As you can see, the 7 pre-forked Apache servers don't take up all that much memory. And the master process (not shown) takes even less. Larry Himes.