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From: paigen@forte.heathen.com (David Paigen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.infosystems.www.misc
Subject: Re: Unix too slow for a Web server?
Date: 2 Oct 1996 09:46:48 -0700
Organization: Forte Recreations
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In article <52rkhe$d62@library.clarkson.edu>,
Mark Komarinski <komarimf@craft.clarkson.edu> wrote:
>Matthew Dillon (dillon@best.com) wrote:
>: :In article <$oVmqBAydTTyEw9t@senator.demon.co.uk>,
>: :Gavin Estey  <gavin@senator.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>: :>In article <52am8g$fvs@nntp1.u.washington.edu>, Trent Piepho
>: :><xyzzy@u.washington.edu> writes
>: :>>But how would you share the data between them?  Unless you buy a RAID array
>: :>>for each machine, you'll have to use NFS or something.  If you factor in
>: :>>20 gigs of drive for each ppro, you'll have a hard time buying 10.
>: :>
>: :>Why would you want 20 gig on just one machine. You could have 10
>: :>machines each with serving 2 gig.
>: 
>:     Not cost effective.  What you could serve out of 10 2G boxes another
>:     person would be able to serve out of 2 10G boxes 400% cheaper.  Reliability
>:     is an issue, but not one deserving a 4x increase in cost in a heavily
>:     competitive market!
>
>Ha ha ha ha ha ha bwah! bwah!  ha ha ha.   Oh sorry.  This is just *way* too
>funny.
>
>Try running something that hits the hard drive *a lot* and see your
>performance go through the floor.  (Hint:  try running a news server)
>
>Cost-effectiveness isn't all that helpful when your customers are waiting for
>I/O.
>
>Now, what business *were* you in?
>
>-Mark

Actually, Mark, Matt is the head sysad/techie at a large ISP in
the Bay Area.  I think Best has something like 10,000 customers
now.  I can assure you that Matt knows a lot about running a news
server.

And, like the chess master, that you don't know who he is
suggests that he probably knows more about running unix servers
than you do.

-David
-- 
David Paigen       paigen@{best.com,forte.org}   Will answer stupid user
aka Sir Henry Lee     C, unix, X, news, and        questions for beer. 
Queen's Champion       distributed systems	       (good beer)