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From: awb@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Alan W Black)
Subject: Re: Old BSD Source Code
In-Reply-To: jn@berlin.snafu.de's message of Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:17:10 +0200
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Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:15:34 GMT
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In article <19960922121710134506@pppx231.berlin.snafu.de> jn@berlin.snafu.de (Juergen Nickelsen) writes:

   From: jn@berlin.snafu.de (Juergen Nickelsen)

   Boris Katok <bort@MCS.COM> wrote:

   > Does anyone know of an ftp site where I can find old BSD source? I need
   > something from about 1989.

   (Is that Tahoe or Reno?)

   You won't find it. The BSD source before 4.4-lite is not free since it
   contains proprietary code from AT&T (now property of Novell or whoever
   owns the right to the UNIX source code this week).

Technically the released source before 4.4-lite has not been shown to
contain proprietary code as it has never been tested in court.  In
fact most people would go further and say that there wasn't any
proprietary code in the released versions, and that may be the reason
USL (who owned Unix at the time) never actually went to court.

Besides large parts of the BSD source tree were never in any
dispute and are still today available from the net (though are
not quite so common given the plethora of excellent free Unix systems
around, including one from SCO who currently own Unix).

ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/unix/ contains both 4.3bsd-reno and 4.3bsd-net2
You might find stuff going back to '89 there.

Alan

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