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Xref: sserve comp.unix.solaris:530 comp.unix.bsd:7938 Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!nucsrl!ddsw1!gagme!joeg From: joeg@gagme.chi.il.us (joe grosch) Subject: Re: Solaris 1.1 vs. Solaris 2.0 (BSD vs AT&T) Message-ID: <1992Nov16.000000.4135@serveme.chi.il.us> Sender: usenet@serveme.chi.il.us Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] References: <1992Nov13.232053.7061@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:00:00 GMT Lines: 32 Richard Warner (rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu) wrote: [...deleted for to save bandwidth...] : So, without someone to carry that torch, BSD will : slowly die. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : A problem we are going to have to fix. That is unless you LIKE being under the thumb of AT&T. There are enough talented people on this net who will work on 386BSD and ports to other machines (In the last two days I've seen posts from people who have a Sun 3 and HP 3000 who want 386BSD on them because they are losing support) to keep it going. A example of good, "free" software supported by the net and not-for-profit orig. is Elm and GNU gcc. Sun considers gcc to be a threat to it's own C compiler. Witness the current issue of UNIX World (I think), there is an ad for Sun's C compiler. In the ad they list the statement, "We got the compiler for free" as being on of the three great lies in life. The other two being, "The check is in the mail" and "There are no bugs in the code". I have also heard horror stories from Sun sales people about gcc. Of course the stories are AFOAF type and the stories were almost word-for-word repeats from differnt sales people. Anybody in the Chicago or Minneapolis area (I live in Minneapolis and work in Chicago) who wants a copy of 386BSD, send me email and we'll swap tapes. Screw AT&T. Josef -- Josef Grosch | It's been a quiet week in Lake Wobegon, my home town... joeg@gagme.chi.il.us | New Yorker by birth, Minnesotan by choice