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Xref: sserve comp.unix.solaris:528 comp.unix.bsd:7933 Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!sgiblab!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!csn!raven!rcd From: rcd@raven.eklektix.com (Dick Dunn) Subject: Re: Solaris 1.1 vs. Solaris 2.0 (BSD vs AT&T) Message-ID: <1992Nov16.075931@eklektix.com> Organization: eklektix - Boulder, Colorado References: <kzin.721442926@cc.gatech.edu> <BxLz6x.EL7@cs.uiuc.edu> <1992Nov13.232053.7061@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:59:31 GMT Lines: 41 rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner) writes: >There are a lot of reasons to unify the UNIX world under one roof. You >may prefer BSD over SysV, but let's face facts -> BSD is dead... What are you smoking, and where can I get some (legally)??? The only reason SysV is alive is because of SVR4, and the only reason any- one wants SVR4 is because of the BSDisms. Mostly, folks using SunOS aren't interested in SVR4/Solaris2, because it's a bag on the side of what they've got. Mostly, folks using SVR3 *are* interested in SVR4 because it's something useful on the side of the bag they've got. USL has been trying to figure out how to incorporate BSD features to move their OS forward to where Berkeley was a decade ago. >...BSD is >the property of UC California, Berkeley, and they are closing it down. (Insert obvious "he doesn't know what he's talking about" reply re "property".) >...So, without someone to carry that torch, BSD will slowly die. On the face of it, it's true--**IF** nobody picks up the torch from CSRG, BSD will die. But that's an "if pigs had wings" argument...the issue is not whether there is someone to pick up the torch, but which of the several possibilities will be the one to carry it. >USL is still the 'master of the source' for Sys V... Yes, the gorilla is guarding the ancient jewelry. If you could back up far enough in the source code, USL could give you one of the better operating systems of the late '70's. Try to imagine why people don't care. -- Dick Dunn rcd@raven.eklektix.com -or- raven!rcd Boulder, Colorado ...Simpler is better.