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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mira.net.au!news.vbc.net!samba.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!ultra.sonic.net!miwok!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!irz401!orion.sax.de!uriah.heep!news From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Route cloning (disable - how to?) Date: 14 Aug 1996 07:12:09 GMT Organization: Private BSD site, Dresden Lines: 32 Message-ID: <4uru89$891@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <4t0g99$pni@mandolin.qnet.com> <31F518A3.2781E494@freebsd.org> <4tnu8u$k61@verdi.nethelp.no> <DvG7FF.M7u@ottnews.shl.com> <4ur8sp$nbb@mandolin.qnet.com> Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.heep.sax.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E patrick@qnet.com (Patrick Linstruth) wrote: > You're not confused. FreeBSD's routing is brain-damaged. It doesn't > think there's a difference between ARP tables and routing. If your > FreeBSD requires any routing for anything other than what's directly > connected to your ethernet card on a single network number, you're > out of luck. As much as I hate to say it, try Linux. Atleast they > didn't dick with IP routing. It's time to change FreeBSD's name to > FreeMACOS. The "it does it all for you without you having to know > anything operating system. And even if you do know what you're doing > forget it, we know better." Thank you for your well-founded submission. 4.4BSD's routing scenario is among the best i've seen so far. What you describe is a non-problem, as thousands of installations in the world prove daily. I've seen too many commercial Unices with a much poorer routing table management, where you always have to tweak your brain (e.g., ``metric >= 1 means a gateway route'', why do i have to specify a routing metric in the routing table at all?, Slowaris admits in its /etc/inet/netmasks file that ``it should be possible to specify anything else than a class A, B, or C address here'' etc.). NB: I'm by no means claiming that Linux does it worse, but your argumentation is entirely wrong. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)