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From: deraadt@theos.com (Theo de Raadt)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Another censored piece of mail...
Date: 12 Aug 1996 21:35:27 GMT
Organization: Theo Ports Kernels For Fun And Profit, Inc.
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Here's another piece of mail which it appears NetBSD has censored off
their mailing lists.

And by censoring my initial comments, I guess they are asking for more
comments, and a change of forum.

The basic story is that Chris Demetriou and Adam Glass pulled pieces
of encumbered 4.4 source code off vangogh.berkeley.edu while the
lawsuit was still on-going and Charles Hannum (who I don't believe to
be an AT&T source licensee) merged chunks (and rewrote other chunks
according to the 4.4 conventions) into the "magnum" branch of the
NetBSD tree.  I was working on the sparc port in the "magnum" branch;
it used the 4.4 dual-clock and /sbin/init startup code and hence could
not work in a Net/2 derived kernel.

I also looked at these 4.4 pieces as this development was being done.
Most were passed around using mail, and some of us archive a lot of
mail.

Apparently these encumbered pieces are still in the NetBSD repository,
and this is the real reason why NetBSD has not made their repository
available like FreeBSD and OpenBSD has.

Their source repository is slimed.

Here is the article that started all this.
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To: Paul Traina <pst@shockwave.com>, current-users@netbsd.org
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: state of CLNP code in NetBSD? 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 11 Aug 1996 00:37:46 EDT."
             <14519.839738266@ux2.sp.cs.cmu.edu> 
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 01:41:27 -0600
From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@theos.com>
Sender: owner-misc@openbsd.org
Precedence: bulk

Chris G Demetriou <Chris_G_Demetriou@ux2.sp.cs.cmu.edu> wrote:

> > > Just out of curiosity, what's the current state of the CLNP code in NetBSD?
> > > Is it identical to 4.4-Lite2?  Is it functional in the slightest?
> > 
> > The code has changed quite a bit from 4.4, mostly in keeping up with
> > other changes in the kernel.  I've also fixed some rather obvious bugs
> > in it.  As far as I know, nobody has ever tried to use it.
> 
> "changed quite a bit from 4.4-Lite" you mean.
> 
> (1) NetBSD never integrated any 4.4BSD sources (because they were
>     not publically available).  You really should always make that
>     clear.

Well now, you know that isn't exactly true . . .
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