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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.carno.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!ames!enews.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!van-bc!news.rmii.com!usenet From: roell@xinside.com (Thomas Roell) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,misc.consumers Subject: Re: Why not buy Matrox Millennium Date: 11 Aug 1996 17:47:30 -0600 Organization: X Inside Inc. Lines: 33 Sender: roell@xeno.xinside.com Message-ID: <873f1tjxf1.fsf@xeno.xinside.com> References: <4j21ph$crr@slappy.cs.utexas.edu> <87viesy5z0.fsf@xeno.xinside.com> <4uhg4b$oa9@pell.pell.chi.il.us> <87zq43vvaj.fsf@xeno.xinside.com> <4ujl2j$2k6@pell.pell.chi.il.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: fog.xinside.com In-reply-to: orc@pell.chi.il.us's message of 10 Aug 1996 20:46:27 -0700 X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.apps:20220 comp.os.linux.development.system:29603 comp.os.linux.x:37774 comp.os.linux.hardware:47267 comp.os.linux.setup:68239 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:1027 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:4581 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:4356 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:25328 misc.consumers:94203 In article <4ujl2j$2k6@pell.pell.chi.il.us> orc@pell.chi.il.us (Orc) writes: > >> it runs; it takes a perfectly normal 80x30 or 80x25x20scanline screen > >> and converts it into a 80x25 screen. > > > >That is not a bug. It is a documented behaviour. > > Yes, but it's wrong documented behavior; from what I've seen of the > xinside server, it looks all nice and good, but I'm certainly not going > to spend money on software that mangles all of my text consoles. If > there was any assurance that you'd remove this misfeature, I'd be willing > to send xinside the $100 or whatever so I could get a copy of the server > after you removed that feature and left the text consoles alone. Maybe I was not clear in previous postings. So let's get down to the technicalities again. It is not possible to read back the state of ALL graphics chip related registers. What XF86 does is majorly guesswork on registers that cannot be read back. Our experiments have shown that trying to guess about those registers leads in a high number of cases (read non-standard cases) to screwedup systems and total lockups. As I do not consider this apropriate Xaccel forces 80x25. One thing to remember is that I originally came up with the approach to read back that stuff in X386, which are the roots of XF86. So it might occur to you that I have not removed this mis-feature from Xaccel to screw users. A future version of Xaccel however might allow restoring of a limited set of other textmodes that are safe to be restored. - Thomas -- Denver Office THOMAS ROELL /\ Das Reh springt hoch, +1(303)298-7478 X INSIDE INC / \/\ das Reh springt weit, 1801 Broadway, Suite 1710 / \ \/\ was soll es tun, Denver, CO 80202 roell@xinside.com / Oelch! \ \ es hat ja Zeit.