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From: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 22:15:17 GMT
Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd
Lines: 47
Message-ID: <837555317snz@dsl.co.uk>
References: <4schgu$7t@anorak.coverform.lan>
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: dragnhll.demon.co.uk
X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29
X-Mail2News-Path: dragnhll.demon.co.uk

In article <4schgu$7t@anorak.coverform.lan>
           brian@awfulhak.demon.co.uk "Brian Somers" writes:

> Brian Blackmore (bnb@looking-glass.org) wrote:
> : Your knowledge of this subject shows up as being totally crap, by the
> : statement you said above and also by the fact that your news setup
> : breaks RFC1036 (message ID's must have a valid internet domain name
> : after the @ anorak.coverform.lan is *not* a valid internet domain
> : name, if everyone choose stupid domain names and didn't register them
> : there would be clashes all over the place and a Message-Id would not
> : be unique.)
> : </Reality>
> 
> Yeah, so you go patch tin so that it allows you to configure
> your article names.

It doesn't require any "patching" of tin; merely that you configure your
system correctly.  looking at other headers in your postings, we find:
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.coverform.lan
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: awfulhak.demon.co.uk

Now the second line is added by Demon's news posting software.  It
identifies unequivocally the machine through which the article was
received by Demon.  This, amongst other things, prevents Demonites from
forging articles.

The first line was inserted by tin; it reflects the configuration options
that you (or your sysadmin) provided to tin (it's so many years since I
last looked at tin that I cannot remember what this is called).  So
*someone* has selected localhost.coverform.lan as the name of the node
from which the posting occurred --- we wouldn't have a situation here
where a corporate LAN was being interfaced to the Internet as a Demon
node, would we?  If so, you *are* paying Demon the extra GBP200pa for the
networking option, aren't you?  If you're a basic TAM customer, all users
must read and post e-mail and news on just the one machine, and not any
machine on a corporate LAN.

It boils down to the fact that tin has been misconfigured, and is issuing
onto the 'net host names which cannot, and must not, exist (except on a
*completely* local basis).  I'm beginning to have suspicions about why you
chose awfulhak as your Demon node name!

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
                Tony Blair's New Labour: The Windows'95 of Political Parties
             (c/w Plug'n'Pray and a pretence of offering object-orientation)