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From: iialan@iifeak.swan.ac.uk (Alan Cox)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: TCP latency
Date: 16 Jul 1996 08:25:44 GMT
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In article <31E7BD6F.167EB0E7@dyson.iquest.net> "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> writes:
>emotional in the support of Linux.  Yes, Linus should be happy that
>Linux APPEARS to be catching up in certain areas.  That is ALL that can be
>concluded at this point.

Appears to be catching up. Is that the closest Mr Dyson can get to
admitting he might be losing on something.

>   Yep, Linus got up to three(3) connections :-).  Psst, try 1000-3000
>connections with different IP/PORT addresses, then it all starts getting
>very very interesting :-).

That is one I'd like to try, and I'd be interested in the figures for both
on the same hardware for each node you are testing against. (DONT do a dumb
two host many connection test its got no value as the packet patterns will not
resemble real traffic and you won't be accurately assessing issues like 
L2 cache footprint of arp table lookups. You need to model a real network
with say 300-500 hosts off mixed subnets and on mixed traffic timers to
generate useful stats for say WWW network performance.

>competency in benchmarking.  I'll bet you that there are qualities about
>me that blow YOU AND LINUS away, but that does not make me better in the

Apparent ego size ;) 

>areas that I am not expert.  Additionally, have you been open about
>the attempted recruitment of me onto Linux?  (Y'know the VM system needs
>work?)

Well the last time I looked the VM works rather nicely now, it certainly
seems to work rather well (unlike 1.2). It also passes the portability test
in running on machines with 32 and 64bit architectures, as well as both
physical and various virtual caches, while I'm dubious the FreeBSD vm subsystem
will actually run well on a 64bit architecture - perhaps the NetBSD folk can
answer why they use the Mach VM layer not yours ?

Alan
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