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From: chuck@ccrc.wustl.edu (Chuck Cranor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: TCP latency
Followup-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: 15 Jul 1996 20:50:28 -0500
Organization: Washington University,  St. Louis MO.
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In article <4seo88$fqd@fido.asd.sgi.com>,
Larry McVoy <lm@slovax.engr.sgi.com> wrote:
>If you look at the directions of the computer industry, the Unix market
>is shrinking (not in real numbers, in percentage), while the Windows
>& Windows/NT market is growing.  If you follow that out to its logical
>conclusion, at some point in the future, the only "choice" we will have
>will be a Microsoft product.  In many ways, we're already there.

Ok, seems like a valid concern.   But why do you think the Windows/NT
market is growing and over-shadowing the Unix market?

I believe this is happening because Windows & Windows/NT have a better
user interface and superior applications for the "average" user (when
compared to Unix).    In this context, I believe the problem with Unix
is not the kernel (or its performance), so I don't see how working in
that area is going to address the problem?

I think that Unix without powerful applications and a uniform user 
interface will not be able to make any headway vs. Windows/Windows-NT, 
regardless of how fancy the Unix/BSD/Linux kernel is.    In the meantime 
Microsoft, given its resources, can simply absorb the good ideas from 
Unix/BSD/Linux into NT's kernel at its leisure [and the GPL offers no 
protection from that].

Of course, I also think that Windows has way too much inertia for 
a fixed up unix-like OS to dislodge anyway.    Most people don't
care what OS they run, as long as the applications run ("go with what
you know").   [sorry to be gloomy...]

chuck
-- 
>>Chuck Cranor, Graduate Student, Computer and Communications Research Center<<
>>Washington University, St. Louis MO    http://www.ccrc.wustl.edu/pub/chuck <<
... help!  my wife has accepted a job with at&t research in new jersey and
    now i've got to find a job in new jersey too ...