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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mira.net.au!inquo!news.seinf.abb.se!nooft.abb.no!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.cais.net!world1.bawave.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!in-news.erinet.com!news From: geosh@erinet.com (Geosh Fathauer) Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages Date: 3 Jul 1996 17:38:23 -0400 Organization: EriNet Online 513 436-1700 (Voice) Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4rep8f$bq@eri.erinet.com> References: <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com> <836073421snz@dsl.co.uk> <31D87436.7C7F@www.play-hookey.com> <836295557snz@dsl.co.uk> <4rcr6v$dh@anorak.coverform.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: eri.erinet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Actually, the following is somewhat true. While I can't give the total technical discussion, the gist is this. Many of the protocals involved are optimized to take advantge of sustained connections; once the connection is opened, both ends work together to get the fastest possible throughput. Web browsing opens up an individual connection for every page and every graphic. So, there are all the lag times to establish the routing, connections, et cetera. Think of it like this: You with your 28.8 modem and your computer set at 115200; would you rather log on, browse a page and get all the data and graphics at once, and log off, or have to log on, get the http data, hang up, dial AGAIN, retrain to a proper rate, get the next graphic, hang up, dial AGAIN, retrain to a proper rate, get the next graphic, hang up, dial AGAIN... you get the picture. Yes, the net does and is actually working in a manner such as this. The people who write web browsers are aware of this and are working on protocals such that a web browser can request a full document, and the server will serve up the whole bundle in one blow on a single connection... Geosh : : Another problem with web surfing is that Netscape took a cynical decision : : to launch parallel multiple sessions which are playing absolute havoc : : with the RTT timeout adjustment algorithms of most TCP/IP packages: it : : has been said that this is the single most contributory factor to the : : slowing down of the 'net in the past year, with fully 40% of packets : : being needlessly duplicated. : I find that difficult to believe. What do you mean by TCP/IP packages?