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From: james@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: help a novice. (PART II)
Date: 2 Jul 1996 01:51:25 -0000
Organization: A FreeBSD Box
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In article <31d76f64.6864854@news.axxcess.net>,
shaun. <handyman@axxcess.net> wrote:
>
>1a.  How do I access the floppy drive??

DOS floppies - install the mtools package (it even allows you to use
DOS-style commands like 'mcopy a:*.* /tmp' to copy everything from the
floppy into the /tmp directory).

FreeBSD floppies - 'mount /dev/fd0a /mnt' and then use Unix commands 
like 'cp /mnt/* /tmp'.

>2a.  When I type in...fdformat(1) or another command that uses the
>()'s, it say "Badly placed ()'s", where do i place them?

The expression "fdformat(1)" is a shorthand for "the command is
'fdformat' and it's described in section 1 of the manual". The error
message is from the shell (the program that reads what you type at the
command prompt); brackets have a special meaning for the shell and it
gets confused if you use them when it wasn't expecting them.

So 'fdformat blah blah' will invoke the command, 'man 1 fdformat' will
display the "man page" (a description of how fdformat works.
Unfortunately man pages are generally designed as references for
people who already know how the command works, rather than a tutorial
for new users).

A couple of caveats: fdformat will only format the disk and not put a
filesystem on it - you'll need to use newfs(8) for that. The good news
is that newfs can make intelligent guesses at how to do this, so you
don't have to work out values for all the strange parameters - the bad
news is that is thinks everything's a hard disk and puts 600k of
inodes at the start, so you only end up with half the floppy useable,
if you're not careful.

Personally, I've never found FreeBSD-formatted floppies very useful -
I always use DOS floppies for things like carrying files around or
making simple backups.

>Okay, as the subject says, i know very little about UNIX, but i am
>learning, so if you could answer the below stupid questions, i would
>be enormously appreciative:

Well, everyone has to start at the beginning and there's nothing
stupid about your questions:-

>1.  How do I change the permissions?  I am the administrator, but i
>can not even make a directory, nor download a file.

chmod(1) - that means the command is 'chmod' and help is available by
'man 1 chmod' (see - you're getting the hang of it already!)

Another useful one is chown(8), which changes the owner of a file.

mkdir(1) creates a directory.

>2.  What command do i use to access the floppy drive (a:)??

See above.

>3.  Is there an online guide for the stupid?

Try the FreeBSD handbook - 

'more /usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.ascii'. 

Or, if you've got a Web browser working on your FreeBSD system, go to

file://localhost/usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html

If you want the very latest version, try

http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/

(the one on your system is the version that was available when the
last release came out, in November).

By the way, I've typed example commands in single quotes to help
separate them from the rest of the text. Don't type the quotes when
you actually give the commands!

-- 
James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland
james@jraynard.demon.co.uk
http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/