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From: "David G. Bell" <dbell@zhochaka.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: demon.ip.support,demon.tech.unix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Batch FTP and Web Pages
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 08:31:07 GMT
Organization: C. Bell & Sons
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References: <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com> <836073421snz@dsl.co.uk> <4r4oup$o76@newsgate.duke.edu>
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In article <4r4oup$o76@newsgate.duke.edu>
           reese@chem.duke.edu "Charles Reese" writes:

> Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk> wrote:
> >In article <31D4AA3A.BC0@www.play-hookey.com>
> >           kbigelow@www.play-hookey.com "Ken Bigelow" writes:
> >
> >> If you have a connection limited to 200 b/s, why not make the connection,
>  start > the download, and then go to bed? Most dialers =
> (Trumpet Winsock, the user PPP 
> >> program in FreeBSD, etc.) can have an inactivity timeout so that the
>  connection > will shut down 5 minutes (or whatever) after th=
> e transfer ends, so connection 
> >> time should not be a problem.
> >
> >In amongst all the grossly overlong lines above (whatever happened to the
> >Usenet convention of writing no more than 72--76 characters per line?)
> >it's easy to see that Ken lives in a world where the connection time is
> >of limited or zero cost.  Here in the UK, all telephone calls are charged
> >for: even at the cheapest rate, the charge is still 1p/minute, and for
> >other times of the day, and for non-local calls (many users do not have
> >ISPs such as Demon, who provide local call access throughout an entire
> >kingdom), the charge can be as great at 10p/min.  At those rates, leaving
> >a connection to plod along at 200B/s is *not* a realistic option.
> >
> >-- 
> >Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
> 
> I'm jumping in here in the middle so the point may have already been 
> disscussed but one way to handle big http binaries (which I also 
> dislike) is to do a shell login to your provider and use a text based
> browser (I use lynx) to download the file to your shell account and then
> ftp it home from there.  Of course if you don't have shell access...

I can't recall whether or not it has been mentioned in this thread or 
not, but machines with *.demon.co.uk addresses are those of Demon 
customers with dial-up access -- we don't have shell accounts, we're 
genuine Internet nodes with domain names, IP addresses, and all the 
privileges and responsibilities which that implies.

-- 
David G. Bell -- Farmer, SF Fan, Filker, Furry, and Punslinger..