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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mira.net.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!solace!news.stealth.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.funet.fi!news.cs.hut.fi!news.clinet.fi!usenet From: mickey@cantina.clinet.fi (Mika Ruohotie) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: compiling 2.2-current Date: 28 Jun 1996 13:16:35 GMT Organization: Clinet, Espoo, Finland Lines: 99 Message-ID: <4r0lvj$7k3@news.clinet.fi> References: <4p7dcj$afk@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu> <4pfle0$3to@keltia.freenix.fr> <4q339i$5kc@news.clinet.fi> <4qghqt$q31@uriah.heep.sax.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: cantina.clinet.fi i'm sorry if this is not appropriate place for this conversation, i could do it on email too, but there might be someone interested in atleast reading... J Wunsch <joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de> wrote: >mickey@cantina.clinet.fi (Mika Ruohotie) wrote: >> major changes, i always first compile a kernel, then i make world, and then >boot at all. (Otherwise, the `make world' will be wasted time.) yeah... what if i dont make the kernel first, but the world? >clear, they become a part of the kernel once they are loaded, but that >did already often cause me some panic. :] i think i've encountered something similar now that you mentioned it... >> also how often one should make world on current? >Some people never do. Some of us actually prefer to understand what ah, ok, what then? >happens, and do all the steps manually. `make world' is a safe i have done it either way, often i run the first line on make world manually, then i either edit makefile again to do rest automaticly, or manually... >and thus first cleans out everything. In particular for slower now that i have the speed i dont mind anymore... =) i used to >machines, this is annoying, so a make -k and manual error recovery >might be better. yes, i prefer that myself i guess... >> should one change kernelmore often that that? >This depends. If you've read in the commit logs or on the -current >mailing list (where i hope you are subscribed to) about some new nifty ofcourse i read current mailing list (been reading only for about a month coz i were scared to be mail flooded to hell and half way back but it's not too bad feed after all... and i can tell the nformation _is_ also been helpfull... *smile* >time to time. I generally avoid upgrading in times when the system is >known to be not quite stable (like after the most recent VM changes), i hardly ever change kernels actually, i know too hardly... >since i rely on my machine being available also when i'm not at home. ditto >YMMV. I sometimes also do partial upgrades, e.g. on my machine at now that i run few different machines, i often seem to compile the system on machines i dont really care if they break, while i keep my server as much up as possible... except last nite when i decided to make world there too (since i sup daily now) i was actually considering making that a cron job, would it be fatal? meaning i'd compile all directories on a daily basis, then the world on a weekly basis... though, running it on cron would not let me looking the process... for some reason i like to watch how the making goes on... (it's on one of the xterms) >Of course, you need to have a good insight on what is happening to the >system if you wanna pick this route. yes, and i'd doubt i'd posses one >> how about making all the binaries (/usr/local/bin) again, how often would >I normally never do, except for binaries that are known to fail. The i still run same binaries i made (emacs, uemacs, zsh, elm, cnews, nntpd...) about a year ago, on 486/33 and 8mb ram, though i've been thinking re-compiling them for my p133 just because... >appropriate. The worst offender is top, since it much depends on i noticed >> oh, last one, my linux friend thinks i'm strange coz i compile my system >That's your problem. :-) Or theirs. :-)) theirs... =) >Recompiling yourself makes you sure you've got the source in case of >troubles, and not only that, it makes you sure you've got _exactly_ yes, i know... =) and like it that way. >cheers, J"org mickey