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From: Rafal Boni <rafal@jaka.ece.uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: OpenBSD strategie (Was: Re: followup from censored port-i386@Netbsd.ORG)
Date: 26 Jun 96 22:06:17 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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References: <DERAADT.96Jun23070919@zeus.theos.com> <DERAADT.96Jun24221739@zeus.theos.com> <DERAADT.96Jun25204523@zeus.theos.com> <4qqrvc$2du@server.peacock.de>
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[Note: all groups but comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc trimmed.... This is only 
 marginally on-topic there and has 0 relevance in the other groups...]

markus@server.peacock.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:

[...]

| I partly understand your statements, I cannot understand your strategie
|in accusing people working with the false OS. This not the way to start
|a new and open OS and find friends for it. This starts with your agressive
|postings, goes over to your domain name ("The OS", hell, nice word game)
|and ends in a daemon picture not worth the bandwidth. OpenBSD seems to 
|be agressive instead of cooperative, please try to disprove me.

[...]

	You know, up until now, I had really wanted to stay out of this whole
	thing... But this is just getting too ludicrous.

	First of all, I think dragging this whole thing around the newgroups is
	less-than-cool... In fact, it's downright un-professional.

	Second, the accusations above are downright childish, malicious and 
	just plain nasty.  Have you ever considered that "theos.com" might have
	come about as nothing more than "this is theos domain"??? Reading more
	than that into it is a sign of (a) too much spare time on your hands,
	(b) malicious intent, or (c) a blatant disregard for the sorts of things
	that started this whole conflagration in the first place.  Either way,
	it contributes nothing to the discussion and raises the heat level (which
	IMNSHO is already *way* too high...)

	Finally, on the claim of OpenBSD being "aggressive instead of cooperative"
	I'd like to know just where in that range you think your message falls,
	especially given the fact that you're now reaching at straws and attacking
	Theo/OpenBSD for such non-items as the graphics on their web site.

If you feel the need, flame away... (but do it in emai if you must)
--rafal

PS: SInce the claim has been made before that this whole flamewar has been
conducted by people doing other people's dirty work, this mail message has
been 100% my personal opinion.  Since it seems unlikely that any of this
will ever get resolved, my only interest is keeping it from getting to a point
where we have *BSD factions and their users/developers pissing on/buggering 
each other in public.  Honestly, I'd rather have everyone involved decide they
hate each other's guts and move on with life than this constant sniping :-/