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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!news.unb.ca!agate.nbnet.nb.ca!news From: cavenerl@nbnet.nb.ca (Lance Cavener) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc Subject: Re: Shell/PPP dialins. Help plz. Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 23:47:33 GMT Organization: VSi Lines: 34 Message-ID: <4pfnsg$b14@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> References: <4oo8o8$6ah@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> <david-0406962116110001@ppp27.emeraldis.com> <4p5qrs$1ok_004@news.livenet.net> <4pf3u5$lq8@picasso.op.net> Reply-To: cavenerl@nbnet.nb.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: mctnts01c21.nbnet.nb.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 root@candle.pha.pa.us (Bruce Momjian) wrote: >Jim Sloan (jsloan@LiveNet.Net) wrote: >: I saw nothing bitchy about the original post, the person was asking valid >: questions as a newbie, nothing wrong with that, but I do see a bitchy attitude >: in YOUR response as if you expect everyone to be at YOUR level immediately, >: but then again, from your responses I have seen so far, you have been wrong on >: SEVERAL occasions, so I guess you might need a little teaching too. So >: LIGHTEN up, smell the roses, take a relaxing look at life, it helps a lot. >I disagree and agree with David on this one. The original posting >'loudly' complained about the P before ppp logins, the lack of modem >init strings, the 'alleged' lack of user accounting, and the BSDI >manual. >Whether you are a newbie or not, there is no need to slam the product. >If you have a question or need help. ask. As you become more familiar >with the product, the design decisions appear more valid. I am not slaming it. I am just pointing out features which could be improved/added or removed. I am sure people would agree with me that there should be an option to init the modem right in ppp.sys or something (Im sure you could run tip in your crontab to do this). Also, for the price of BSDI, they should add a "log exporter" to dump 'last' or wtmp into a evenly columed file for inport into database programs. These are just suggestions, and I am not bashing BSDI in any way. I use it, I even PICKED it to be used and I wouldnt have done that if I didnt like the over all design.. Sorry if it sounded like I was bashing it in my original post as I was not. Lance