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Newsgroups: alt.fan.bill-gates,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.org.team-os2,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!inferno.mpx.com.au!news.unimelb.EDU.AU!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!iol!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!netcom.net.uk!netcom.com!petrich From: petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) Subject: Re: Why no M$ AppleScript or Rexx imitations? Message-ID: <petrichDsBHMC.n29@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <4on6de$9rj@orion.cybercom.net> <31AF6AD0.438@easyaccess.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:39:48 GMT Lines: 39 Sender: petrich@netcom2.netcom.com Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au alt.fan.bill-gates:22823 comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc:108458 comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc:144244 comp.os.os2.advocacy:206601 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:110680 comp.os.linux.advocacy:50700 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:20470 In article <31AF6AD0.438@easyaccess.com>, KORO the Great <ksahin@easyaccess.com> wrote: >Jerry Shekhel wrote: [someone's experience with crashes when running Visual Basic...] >> No. VB has its share of problems, but what you're describing is *definitely* >> a configuration problem. VB is the most widely used development environment >> today, used mostly for internal development, prototyping, and front ends. >> Like it or not, a *lot* of people use it for "something real". So that presumably means that it *is* possible to get it working. However, what would make VB crash while not affecting other Windoze apps is, to me at least, unclear. >Configuration? With REXX, I just open up a text editor and start typing. > It does what I want it to with no hassle (unless I made a typo). Why >should one need to configure a batch script editor? It's a waste of time. And the same is true with AppleScript. All that's necessary is for all the appropriate extensions to be in place in the System Folder, and it's instantly usable. AppleScript has the nice property of using AppleEvents, which is a messaging protocol Apple introduced with System 7. Neither AppleEvents nor AppleScript are as supported as they might be; but when they are, it's *very* nice. Thus, with the scriptable Finder, I can create an app that empties WWW-browser caches when one of those programs crashes, just to name *one* example. The main difficulty I have with AppleScript is that it is *very* slow for big jobs. Let's hope that Apple releases a native version of it before too long (it's still emulated 68K). And a preliminary version of System 8 reportedly managed 1500 AppleEvents/s; that performance will be necessary, since the current event-loop model of programming will be replaced by a lot of installation of AppleEvent handlers. -- Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh petrich@netcom.com And a fast train My home page: http://www.webcom.com/petrich/home.html Mirrored at: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/pe/petrich/home.html