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From: blake@pbgi.com (Blake Swensen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Lame ISP and routing rules.
Date: Tue, 28 May 96 19:54:23 GMT
Organization: Pillar/Blake International
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I have a problem that I cannot get my ISP to solve and I am looking for a 
'work-around.'

Mail destined to GOL.COM (among others) is getting a time out:

phil: {3} mailq
                Mail Queue (1 request)
--Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------
MAA04586      244 Sun May 26 12:40 <SOLOBIKE@china_cat.pbgi.com>
              (Deferred: Operation timed out during initial connection with)
                                   <mpotter@gol.com>

This looks like the DNS server, or the GOL router is lame.  However when I 
telnet offsite, the traceroute to GOL works fine.  In fact, mail sent to 
GOL.COM from outside my ISP's dominion works fine (from traceroute from 
netcom.com):

 1  192.100.81.254 (192.100.81.254)  2 ms  4 ms  5 ms
 2  sjx-ca-gw1.netcom.net (163.179.1.29)  3 ms  4 ms  8 ms
 3  t3-1.scl-ca-gw3.netcom.net (163.179.220.194)  9 ms  8 ms  13 ms
 4  sl-mae-w-F0/0.sprintlink.net (198.32.136.11)  123 ms  247 ms  35 ms
 5  sl-stk-6-H3/0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.45)  180 ms  15 ms  16 ms
 6  sl-stk-8-F0/0.sprintlink.net (144.228.40.8)  33 ms  18 ms  28 ms
 7  sl-gol-2-s0-T1.sprintlink.net (144.228.48.26)  22 ms  26 ms  22 ms
 8  202.243.63.70 (202.243.63.70)  972 ms  836 ms  814 ms
 9  gol1.gol.com (202.243.48.4)  842 ms  916 ms  842 ms

From within my domain... I get the following traceroute:

 1  rtr (206.251.72.1)  2.430 ms  2.095 ms  2.087 ms
 2  s0.r0.trans.rain.rg.net (204.119.36.3)  18.536 ms  18.508 ms  17.845 ms
 3  s0.r0.trans.rain.rg.net (204.119.36.3)  18.227 ms  30.253 ms  18.119 ms
 4  core1-fddi.SaltLake.elix.net (207.0.56.17)  63.969 ms  53.803 ms  66.224 
ms
 5  core1-fddi.SaltLake.elix.net (207.0.56.17)  58.742 ms  57.554 ms  51.248 
ms
 6  border2-hssi2-0.Denver.mci.net (204.70.29.9)  75.613 ms  104.264 ms 67.357
ms
 7  core1-fddi-1.Denver.mci.net (204.70.3.113)  78.744 ms  79.913 ms  92.507 
ms
 8  core3.WillowSprings.mci.net (204.70.4.25)  195.730 ms  101.856 ms  117.412 
ms
 9  ameritech-nap.WillowSprings.mci.net (204.70.1.198)  102.358 ms  92.384 ms 
105.263 ms
10  * * *
11  etc  * * * to hop 30

I contacted the technical guy at MCI, thinking that they had a lame router, 
but he informed me: "Please open a ticket with your service provider if you 
are having problems.  You are not stopping at the ameritech router, the next 
hop doesn't come back to you through MCI.  This has to do with multiple access 
and route announcments based on your service provider's routing policy."

So my question is: can I, by using gated/routed (on FreeBSD 2.01), bypass my 
ISP's routing policy, and take more control of the problem?  Alternatively, is 
there a way to peek at my ISP's (Linux) routing rules and indentify exactly 
what his problem is and how to fix it?

Peace,
Blake