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Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.cis.okstate.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!zib-berlin.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!uriah.heep!news From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Borland-type editor anywhere? Date: 12 May 1996 10:48:48 GMT Organization: Private BSD site, Dresden Lines: 42 Message-ID: <4n4fmg$6l5@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: <ADlbrKriXS@qsar.chem.msu.su> <4mp2d4$4m0@complete.org> <4n0314$167@dhp.com> <4n1ukg$rjj@uriah.heep.sax.de> <4n3aj3$ov0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.heep.sax.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.6 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber) wrote: > Why? Since Emacs is a ``permanent object'', > >you start it once when logging in, and exit it before logging out. > > But I already have a great operating system (It's freebsd) so why > would I want emacs anyway? Hmm, well, other people prefer NetCrap as their operating system. :) > >(The size argument is almost moot. When comparing against a text-mode > >editor, you have to compare an Emacs running text-mode, > > Hmmm... lets see, I fire up mg and its around 400k. I fire up emacs -nw > and, gee, about 3400k. Almost no difference at all! Sorry, I just Strange, my ``permanent object'' (X11) emacs is: UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 107 254 1 5 2 4 2800 1340 select SN ?? 68:44.32 emacs -ge That's the emacs i'm typing this in, so the ~ 1.4 MB is really the active set size. Now compare this to: 107 6859 16247 9 2 0 488 820 select S+ p6 0:00.23 vi foo ...so two or three simultaneous vi sessions should account for about the same memory usage (real memory -- emacs wastes some VM that has only been used at startup time or for some lisp code in a buffer that has been loaded a week ago and never used again :). That's been my point. Of course, which editor to use is mostly a matter of taste, not of technical merits. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)