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From: Benjamin Smith <bsmith2@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: The PC Mac Holy war
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 18:22:28 -0400
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Jaliya Jayawardena wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 08 May 1996 07:49:06 -0700, bluegoose@earthlink.net (RBA)
> wrote:
> 
> >So most of the beautiful automobile marques of the past are gone as well.
> >Now we're stuck with the stamped out econoboxes of today. And also for the
> >thought, I've worked Macs for 14 years and can honestly say that the only
> >crashes have been the ones 'I've' caused, not the Mac. Has i matured in
> >experience less are the crashes.(2 years to date)
> >
> >Too bad peecees don't have recalls like Ford
> 
>         Heh. Better not throw stones: have you read about Apple's
> recall? What was that about unreliable PCs?
> 
>                         Jaliya

Recalls are not uncommon. I see in Consumer Reports recalls for Lexus, 
Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volvo. They are quality marques. I'm glad Apple is 
owning up to their sub-par units and are actually doing something and 
backing it up with up to a 7 year warranty. If you look at the PC's and 
Apples in percentages the quality side is on the Apple's side. Also, the 
JD Powers surveys indicate owners of Apple machines are very satisfied 
with them. I don't excuse Apple for this quality shortcomings however, 
and I see that Amelio is going to act right now on these shortcomings. 
My company has bought plenty pc's over the last year from AST, Digital, 
Invecta (junk), and Dell. 25% of them had to be sent back for defects, 
and 10% were DOA. Apple has definite quality problems on the models 
mentioned and there have been ugly and unacceptable horror stories about 
some of their computers. However, PC's are absolutely no paragon of 
virtue in terms of quality control. Don't gloat.

Ben S.