*BSD News Article 68057


Return to BSD News archive

Path: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au!newshost.anu.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!metro!munnari.OZ.AU!news.hawaii.edu!news.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.dacom.co.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.cais.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news1.halcyon.com!coho!tzs
From: tzs@coho.halcyon.com (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Historic Opportunity facing Free Unix (was Re: The Lai/Baker paper, benchmarks, and the world of free UNIX)
Date: 9 May 1996 05:38:00 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus, Inc. - Professional Internet Services
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <4ms0bo$h21@news1.halcyon.com>
References: <NELSON.96Apr15010553@ns.crynwr.com> <4mmhcj$dfr@news1.halcyon.com> <31901BFD.7BAC@vfr.interceptor.com> <4mqo4d$kbq@t3.mscf.uky.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: coho.halcyon.com
Xref: euryale.cc.adfa.oz.au comp.os.linux.development.system:23428 comp.unix.bsd.386bsd.misc:941 comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc:3713 comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc:3544 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:19025 comp.os.linux.advocacy:48673

David W. Rankin Jr. <rankin@ewl.uky.edu> wrote:
>The idea of the copyright system isn't to protect the ideas, but the
>time it took you to make the ideas into a product.

Actually, what the idea of the copyright system is depends on if you prefer
Locke to Hagel, but down that road lies insanity, so I won't go there. :-)

In the United States, the Supreme Court has rather strongly rejected the
idea that copyright protects the time you put into the work.  This was
called the "sweat of the brow" theory, and was firmly rejected in _Feist
v. Rural Telephone_.  Copyright protects original works of authorship
fixed in a tangible medium of expression.  If you don't have an original
work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium of expression, you can sweat
all you want, and you get bubkis.  On the other hand, if you *do* have an
original work of authorship fixed in a tangible medium of expression, you've
got protection even if you produced the work with the most trivial of
effort.

--Tim Smith

ps: if anyone's curious, the _Fiest_ case concerned a company that produced
a telephone book by taking another companies white pages and copying them
outright.  The second company had went to considerable effort to gather the
data, but since the didn't use any creative method to select the data (e.g.,
the list consisted of everyone who they sold telephone service to), and they
didn't use any creative method to arrange the data (they listed it in
alphabetical order), it was not a work of authorship (authorship implies
at least some creativity), and so there was no copyright protection.