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From: le@put.com (Louis Epstein)
Subject: Re: When is 2.2R due out?
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Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 06:31:49 GMT

Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@FreeBSD.org) wrote:
: Louis Epstein wrote:
: > I run an ISP and would not welcome anything causing downtime,so I am
: > more interested in what is stable.But isn't something fully stable
: > when it reaches a RELEASE version?My point is that the expected dates
: 
: Well, it's as stable as we knew how to make it at the time of the
: release, yes.  However, consider what happens afterwards when we find
: and fix n number of post-release bugs.  In the past, we had "the
: patchkit" which sort of broke down under its own weight.  In the
: present, we have the -stable branch.  My point is that we'll always need
: a -stable branch of some sort and those running the latest release will
: always want to keep an eye on it for in-time bug fixes.

But when you've recompiled your kernel for your own system,wouldn't
you have to do it over again every time you added the current "-stable"?
(Just what does 2.1.1 fix?)

: > of 2.1.1R and 2.2R seem to be within a few months of each other.
: 
: And those dates aren't really important (they could be on the same *day*
: in our scenario) since each release is targetted at a different market.
: Yes, we'll certainly do our very best to make 2.2-RELEASE as stable as
: we can make it, and that release won't happen until the confidence level
: in 2.2 is high, but there will still remain a large number of people who
: don't *want* to upgrade to the first "dot-zero" release of 2.2, no
: matter how stable we say it is.  They'll prefer to hang back with 2.1.x
: until 2.2 has been out for awhile and has had substantial bug fixes of
: its own in place.  At that stage, I would also hope that 2.1-stable will
: essentially die out with 2.1.x (where x = 2 or 3) as a capstone and
: people will have enough confidence in 2.2.x (where x will be 1 or 2) to
: make the shift.

Wasn't 2.1 supposed to be the bug-fixed 2.0.5 already??

: 
: > Are you in fact expecting to maintain separate release versions of both
: > 2.1.x and 2.2.x branches with only the former being stable?Or will 2.2
: > be the stable branch when its release version comes out?
: 
: That was my plan before, but I've since reconsidered whether it would be
: wise to shift -stable over to 2.2 that soon.  I would prefer to shift
: -stable over ONLY after I'm really very very confident that all the
: features of 2.2 work properly and have been shaken out in release form.

So it will be released before it's stable.

What does this mean to the Walnut Creek CD-ROM subscriber?The mid-year
disk will be a 2.1.1,the end-year 2.2?Will stuff go out that people will
be advised against installing?